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To: ftth who wrote (10065)	1/6/2001 4:18:05 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 12823

WRONG!!! Information Technologies SAVE energy! It is very simple: Supply chains are oneorus, labor intensive, and inefficient. One of the reason we haven't yet got the full benefit of the Internet, (and I wrote that already in the new Frank's Technology Forum) is the effect it will have in the supply chain. (OK, to buy the jargon B2B or B2C). I just remember an old Paul Hawken's book The Next Economy. (I think it is at least 12 years old. (It is out of print in Amazon.com). He explained this very well. If we have many mom and pop shops we close them down and open giant hypermarkets we save energy. We streamline supply chains, we some kind of next next generation network, we save energy. I don't see many telecom operators going into electricity generation or distribution but I see many power utilities going into telecoms.

To: ftth who wrote (10065)	1/6/2001 8:04:13 AM
From: MikeM54321	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

"Each time you order a book online or download an MP3 song, a lump of coal is burned somewhere in America." Thread- So driving to the bricks and mortar bookstore does not burn coal? How about to Blockbuster for a movie? Hah. That's pretty funny in our nation of cars. Europe might be a little different, but in the USA the car is king. Traffic is king. Wasting fuel is king. elmatador I agree with you. IT saves money. It could save a TREMENDOUS amount more if consumers got even more used to buying online. It's totally amazing how inefficient shoppers are. Wasting gallons of gas to buy a magazine. Or gallons to buy a lightbulb. Wouldn't it be a heck of a lot more efficient to have it routed to you in the most efficient manner with hundreds of other light bulb and book buyers (UPS or Fedex) by the super efficient delivery(efficiency or die) services. Or better yet, E-books and not gasoline is used. As far as movies, if it's all electrons(VOD)it avoids the use of a 4,000 pound SUV to transport a .125 pound movie. And let's not forget the possibilities of telecommunting/video conferencing we've brought up on this thread before. If the technology would just work, it would be a whole new world. Today it is sadly and woefully inadequete. I think one would be hard pressed to find an expert that say's transporting a person in a 5,000 lbs vehicle is more efficient than transporting an electron. Today there may be a future shift in how energy is used, but IT certain should not be confused with causing an increase long term. -MikeM(From Florida)