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To: YlangYlangBreeze who wrote (2580)	1/6/2001 11:03:17 PM
From: Poet	Respond to of 6089

I think that writer's a little over the edge on many of his points, frankly. I certainly do understand the sense of loss and outrage, and am also scared shitless at the prospect of four years with a Bush White House and the subtle diminutions of the quality of most Americans' lives that I believe it will engender.

To: YlangYlangBreeze who wrote (2580)	1/6/2001 11:12:13 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 6089

I'm afraid what happened in this election shows our election system does not work in close elections. I am sort of irritated that the black caucus has taken this issue over as a black issue because it is much more than that. This is also not about someone seizing power, since the machinery of our democracy was not (imo) subverted, it simply failed to function well. I am not happy with what happened. But it is hardly a coup.

To: YlangYlangBreeze who wrote (2580)	1/7/2001 6:34:12 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6089

"During the recent Yugoslavian uprising (the second October Revolution), when faced with a president who lost the election and refused to concede, they rose up and physically threw him out of office. They were not afraid of death, reprisals, anything. They just knew in their heart that a great injustice was being done and that it was up to them to undo it. When the exact same thing happened to the Americans, we sit idly by and watch, pretending that it's not as big a deal for us...Why aren't we storming the capitol with torches burning, ready to do what it takes to get the pretender out and the legitimate leadership in? As we speak, we should be marching on Washington, leaving a path of destruction behind us." There was a concession in this election. Perhaps the author of the post you are quoting missed it. Do you seriously endorse these sentiments? Do you genuinely believe it serves and forwards your cause to call for armed insurrection because the opposing party defeated your party in a Presidential election? Do you honestly feel any such action could possibly be in the best interest of the Democratic party, or of any of the causes you cherish, going forward? When the structure of the democratic and electoral process in this country is still perfectly intact (and it is, it would be sheer nonsense to suggest anything else!)? When all the avenues for peaceful, orderly change still exist? When the Democrats still have every chance to win future elections and make or influence national policy?