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Pastimes : Neocon's Seminar Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (61)	1/9/2001 1:53:47 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1112

Since I have been talking about Plato a bit here, this would be a good point to mention that although he considered the questioning of fundamental beliefs intrinsic to a proper philosophic education, he also thought that only persons of steady character should participate, recognizing the danger of moral meltdown as one explored these topics. I do not see that the schools have any business teaching that values are arbitrary, which is the upshot of the kinds of programs you allude to. I suspect that loyalty comes before idealism, not exactly blind loyalty, but the sort that makes one feel a responsibility for the well being of one's nation or community. The ideals come afterwards, as guidelines to making the nation great and noble. It is like being a parent: you don't love your child because of its good qualities, you love it because it is your child, and depends on you. Then you try to instill the good qualities. So, a citizen loves his country because it is his, and then tries to figure out what is best for it. The two things come together in the schools, where one tries to promote good citizenship and persons who will grow into respectable adults.........