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To: Paul Engel who wrote (124946)	1/15/2001 4:30:20 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, <The MacCube is also "saleless" - rendering the lack of a fan rather moot.> So are a lot of other Apple products, but the ideas they're based on are good ones. Too bad (or too good for Intel?) Steve Jobs is more concerned about flash than substance and execution. In any case, you don't want a computer that sounds like a vacuum cleaner sitting on your desktop. While there are many so-called "quiet fans" out there in the marketplace right now, I think now's the right time to go one step further toward removing fans from PCs altogether. This requires a major focus on reducing heat and power-consumption. Unfortunately, too many in the PC world, including the influential ones, still take noisy fans as a given. Tenchusatsu

To: Paul Engel who wrote (124946)	1/15/2001 5:17:56 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, speaking of quiet PCs, Tom's Hardware just started a new series of articles describing how to build your own PC: tomshardware.com It's no surprise they recommended overclocking an 800 MHz Athlon to 1 GHz. But they also recommend a loud Swiftech CPU cooler to handle the extra heat from the overclocking, a beefy 300W power supply (which has its own fan, of course), a graphics card which also has its own fan and cooler, and a case which adds yet another huge fan of its own. This is not going to be a PC that enthusiats will enjoy having around in their homes or offices. The performance will be excellent, no doubt, but for some people I don't think the noise will be worth it. "Highspeed Luxury" (as THG puts it) literally won't sound very luxurious. I'll probably e-mail THG or put a message in their forums regarding the noise issue. The sooner PC users start demanding less noise, the sooner the industry can get around to supplying the demand. And I'm sure THG can help generate some interest in the topic. Tenchusatsu