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To: Rarebird who wrote (3157)	1/17/2001 1:30:23 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6089

I think you sell the government short- the American people love their government. Older Americans love those social security checks they receive- they don't want that part of government to get smaller. Disabled Americans like the Americans with Disabilities Act, they don't want that part of the government to get smaller. College students want more loans and business men want more money in the SBA, farmers want more subsidies, and price supports. Everybody loves their piece of the pie- we just haven't been taught how to love the other guys piece- not since the depression and WWII has anyone tried to teach Americans that. Instead it's all about selfishness and keeping MY slice of the pie and MYmoney and getting getting getting. Oh sure- conservatives talk about helping hands, but oddly enough, I don't see a lot of conservatives helping out in the environment, do you? Do you suppose it is conservatives going to teach in the Indian Reservations? How about the Peace Core? Maybe THAT'S where the compassionate conservatives go. Because they sure as heck went somewhere, since I've never met one.

To: Rarebird who wrote (3157)	1/17/2001 8:08:10 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

I don't think there is an organized left in this country with a platform that radical and moderate liberals can embrace, such as socialized medicine, massive government spending to promote culture, technology, science, mathematics, art, music, philosophy, women's rights, alternative lifestyles I think the Democrat Party embraces most of what you list here, do they not? The DLC may demur from one or two of these things. and above all, Love and Respect for the Power of the Universe, the Human Reality, in all its Greatness. I think these people are in the Natural Law Party. <g> Regarding Thoreau and women, I thought his poem To the Maiden in the East raised questions about a romantic interest there. I like Thoreau a lot, but I think his "solitude" has been overplayed and romanticized. He built his famous cabin on a woodlot owned by Emerson, and it was not very far from town. He probably had frequent visitors and interacted with many passersby.