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To: Rambi who wrote (3176)1/17/2001 1:56:28 PM
From: YlangYlangBreezeRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 6089
 
hey Rambi,
I'm kind of busy with my grandmother today, but if you will forgive me for popping in and out to discuss the issue, i'd welcome your opinion about the "religous music."
joelle



To: Rambi who wrote (3176)1/17/2001 2:13:24 PM
From: cosmicforceRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 6089
 
Compassion, feeling another's pain and wanting to alleviate it, is no less valid when it's carried out within the context of a religious system, is it? Most of these services do not require conversion as a prerequisite to obtaining them.

I think there is a difference between overt and covert proselytizing. It is pretty infamous that the Salvation Army sermon comes before the soup. It is when the government starts using these private agencies that the lines get fuzzy. The Mormons are extremely giving, but there is definitely an agenda behind it.

There was that funny time that my wife and I visited a Mormon "Museum" in San Diego. It was kind of an architectural Chinese Finger trap - you entered through one door but you had to run their gauntlet. They gave a very well-done (if biased) view of the West. It was right next door to a government museum and I foolishly said, well let's just step in and see. Big mistake. I've had an easier time ridding myself of crazy glue than the docent who bonded to us.



To: Rambi who wrote (3176)1/17/2001 4:27:03 PM
From: epicureRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 6089
 
I do not like churches doing work- because they inevitably try to rope people in with their work. It is such totally self interested work that I do not find it very compassionate. But that is just me. I see a black robe, I run the other direction. As for compassion- I can only judge by the conservatives I know- and they suck. They don't know I think they suck, but they suck anyway. There may be some I don't know that don't suck, but I dont' know them- so I really can't say.

I know you- but you aren't REALLY a conservative.

And I've been involved with people in the peace corps, and habitat for humanity, and many other grass roots organizations about helping people- and (honestly) the people there are fairly far to the left. I am sure in the church there are people helping that are far to the right- but I don't see them as helping, so they are part of the problem, not the solution, from my perspective.