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To: Road Walker who wrote (125730)1/21/2001 7:04:57 PM
From: Gary Ng  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
John, Re: How do you enforce high density housing, and how do you retroactively implement it?

Let the market enforce it by not subsidizing the basic stuff like water, electricity etc. You want a low density living style, you pay for the extra cost for laying the pipes, the wires and the cost of maintaining them.

gary



To: Road Walker who wrote (125730)1/22/2001 10:52:03 AM
From: pgerassi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dear John:

Re: "How do you provide public rail transportation in a mature residential area?"

Answer: Simple. Just do the same when highways are routed around city centers. That is condemn the land needed for the right of way. A single track line takes only 15 feet or so. A double track one takes about 30 feet wide. Those are typical when tracks are completely straight. To minimize land taken, you could build an elevated line or drill it underground. BUt, either is more expensive than just condemning the land needed, paying the owners and laying track on top of that. THe main street could be excavated to provide an underpass or built up to make an overpass depending on topology of area.

Any way, this is the way it is always done when new highways are needed or ones that need to be expanded. Alternative way is to do a light street car type route down the center of a wide city street or boulevard. Chicago RTA runs a single track with stations composed of a siding and some double track in higher traffic areas. CTC can allow for express lines to bypass close local slower trains to connect distant communities with main hub in city centers. There commuters can switch to trains going through business centers.

Typically what happens is that RTA routes using existing freight lines. When station is put up, high density housing is built around it as closeness to RTA carries a large premium especially if trains run at say 70 while cars run 20 on jammed expressways. The point is where a community of say 10K (or more) can be served with a single station, there is a high desire of an RTA to connect even if new track is needed.

Hope this gives you an idea of what can be done and how to get from the desire to a working system.

Pete