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To: Gottfried who wrote (84945)	1/22/2001 12:05:44 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

Gottfried, You wrote, "Right. Years ago when they voted they should have foreseen there would be a power crisis and that their elected officials would not be able to deal with it. What utter nonsense." It is hard not to be insulting in responding your reply which was, itself, insulting to my friend Quehubo, but I shall endeavor. Let me simply ask, in a democracy, who is responsible for bad, stupid, venal, moronic government? Should it be the neighboring states of Utah and Nevada? If Utah had advised California that they were making a muck out of deregulation, would the great state legislators have listened? Or, tell us, should the federal government go in and bail out the citizens of La La Land? If so, please, tell us why, using other than a "too big to fail" rationale. And, you ask, should California have foreseen a power crisis? What power crisis? Washington, Oregon, Utah, Nevada, Arizona don't have a power crisis. There's no shortage of electricity in the west, but the California utilities, courtesy of California state law, ARE suffering a shortage of dollars as they continue to provide cheap energy to their constituents while paying market spot rates for their own energy. Did this just happen? Is it an Act of God? Did I miss the tornadoes which swept down out of the skies and destroyed all the power plants in the Golden Bear State? Or was it merely the arrogance and stupidity of homo legislatus californicatius? You act as if this were a mudslide or a tsunami. Knock-knock, Gottfried, is anyone upstairs there? If everyone in Mrs. McGillicuddy's 6th grade class passes the math test except for little Gottfried, could it be that little Gottfried didn't hit the books hard enough or goofed off in school? Or should we just blame the math test? To answer your question directly and to the point, providing power in a variety of uncertain scenarios IS EXACTLY what voters and their representatives must foresee. I am not kidding you here, Gottfried. 49 out of 50 states have figured it out, using either regulation or deregulation. I guess we're just going to have to make the state of California repeat 6th grade, aren't we?

To: Gottfried who wrote (84945)	1/22/2001 5:26:55 PM
From: Second_Titan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 95453

Gottfried, from your response you simplify the mismanagement as two discrete activities that led to this disaster and then it seems your response was aww shucks! what could we have done. Although the confluence of events are extreme today, proper management would have alleviated the extreme level of problems encountered. California has/had tremendous resources to forecast demand during various scenarious that could have been encountered. This problem took years if mismanagement to cause and it will take years to alleviate it and reduce probabilities of it recurring. But this wont happen until the root cause of the primary factors causing the problems are identified.