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To: HairBall who wrote (334)	1/23/2001 6:02:57 PM
From: LPS5	Respond to of 595

The difference is that ibg is you. "Think like a criminal" indeed - I hope the irony isn't lost on you. By the way, ibg, where in my original post... Message 15216101 Merchandising to me means the buying and selling of goods or commodities. If you are suggesting that the markets are a way of bringing together buyers and sellers, I agree. But you seem to suggest - and correct me if I read your message wrong - that there is something insidious afoot. How do equity, fixed income, or options markets (whether or not they are exchanges, and however they operate) "manipulate" sentiment? Are you suggesting that there is a conspiracy at work? That above and beyond the market participants (putting aside the popularly ludicrous proposal that they are all "corrupt enterprises" in every aspect of their businesses), the exchanges and market centers are corrupt and have malevolent, ulterior motives as well? Or that the alternative to a market - which would seem to be an "infinitely" fragmented, often price discontinuous, inarguably information-bereft environment of dissociated buying and selling - would be an improvement? ...did I state or suggest the following: Message 15216282 If you don't believe manipulation of the markets exist, then that is your choice. How is, or does, posing rhetorical questions amount to stating that manipulation "doesn't" exist? LPS5

To: HairBall who wrote (334)	1/23/2001 6:05:26 PM
From: LPS5	Respond to of 595

No love is lost between SI Bob and me and I am sure he is looking for a reason to terminate my account. That's your problem. Perhaps you're just a recidivist. Why is your site down now, and why has ibg suddenly disappeared? You're exposed. LPS5

To: HairBall who wrote (334)	1/24/2001 4:40:54 PM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 595

If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility. - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

To: HairBall who wrote (334)	1/27/2001 1:13:25 PM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 595

If anyone doubted my assessment of LG (by the way, where is ibg?) as a coward, note her attempting to misrepresent my position elsewhere on the internet: village2000.com ...even despite the fact that one of her early supporters agreed that my message never represented that there is "no" manipulation in the market. Message 15243610 Manipulation in the marketplace is a phenomena inherent in situations where humans come together with other humans in the effort to best one another for financial gain. Going through myriad disciplinary actions against brokers and brokerages, manipulation is indisputable (and to your credit, you never denied the existence of such). At the same time, watching market action (no matter how suspicious it appears), manipulation is also largely unprovable, except in cases where it can be determined clearly that rules were broken. Exactly. Many thanks to the MDD participant who, on the condition of anonymity, (and, like eichler, understanding my position) was uncomfortable and brought LG's post to my attention. LPS5