To: nbfm who wrote (6495 ) 1/25/2001 10:27:24 AM From: Eric L Respond to of 197253 nbfm, << It seems that the key word is "rollout." I believe that whatever Q is announcing today differs from what it announced last month about the MSM5105.>> I really think that QCOM used this press release to emphasize an important capability ('plastic roaming'), as a supplement to the first release. It is one of those "read between the lines" releases we see from time to time from Qualcomm (but by no means limited to Qualcomm). Press Releases are, after all, PR. I think we will see some clear cut language when MSM5105 starts to ship in volume ... sort of like the "Begins Worldwide Production Shipment of Its" ... I don't expect that in the next few months, but would be glad to be wrong. QCT announced the MSM3300 started sampling in August, on August 16, 2000. They announced it starting to ship in December (probably a preproduction lot) on. That's 5 months, give or take a few weeks. I think we can expect MSM5105 on about the same schedule ... 5 months ... give or take a month. QCT announced the MSM5105 sampling in December on January 11. We'll probably see commercial volumes in May/June with the real volume shipping QCOM Q4 so we will indeed probably see "the first consumer products incorporating the MSM5105 solution ... commercially available in the middle of calendar 2001" , as promised in the release. Meantime, it looks like SKT is willing to take the MSM5000 in reasonable volumes ... and that is good news. Some others may take small volumes. Sample MSM5105 chips allow manufacturers to test both the MSM5000 and MSM5105 (which have same form factor with different pinouts ... actually added pins for new functionality) in more or less same production handsets. Interesting to see if the handsets shipping with MSM5000 have receptacle for R-UIM. I rather suspect they might. - Eric -