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To: shuebert who wrote (38460)	1/26/2001 1:19:37 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 54805

Susan, << After the April report on Phone.com you expressed concern that Phone.com's window of opportunity with WAP might be a short one. >> I have not totally changed that view, but one thing is for sure, by the end of this year, the majority of shipping phones will be WAP or 'i-mode' enabled ... perhaps one quarter to one third of those however will use Nokia's microbrowser rather than the UP microbrowser ... but still that's a lot of phones. << Do you see the changes that have been made since the merger to have positioned Openwave better or are you as concerned about that window now? >> I have not really followed Phone.com or Openwave too closely. Perhaps a Project Hunt update should be done. <g> Looks like they are strengthened, considerably, without digging into it. << I'm still unclear about what Openwave's role in 3G will be (I thought WAP would no longer be very necessary in 3G >> I think Cha2 may have said that. Something is necessary to optimize small phone displays. WAP 2.0 looks like it improves on what is displayed. For traditional handsets (as opposed to WID's) improved WAP may do the deed. Meantime their is a Japan initiative for a new combined markup language standard and Openwave may be involved in this. Message 15219997 The server side and associated software for all this is where the money is, I would think. - Eric -

To: shuebert who wrote (38460)	1/26/2001 6:57:12 PM
From: gdichaz	Respond to of 54805

Susan: Re: Eric L's comment: "<< I'm still unclear about what Openwave's role in 3G will be (I thought WAP would no longer be very necessary in 3G >> I think Cha2 may have said that." Eric L is correct that in a general way I was (and still am) puzzled by Dr J's position (as I understood him) that IP itself as used on the internet and which has been built into CDMA from its inception made WAP unnecessary. Yet WAP has been and continues to be installed in phones in Japan for example which include the systems which are CDMA based. There seems to be an interest in WAP and the problems to date seem more to do with the circuit switched systems where it has been used than weakness of WAP itself. Nevertheless the frustrations have been real - such as Eric L's own statement that he hates WAP - or did at one time. Wish I had the answer on this, but I don't. But just for fun (and for learning purposes) I did decide to pick up a starter position in Openwave Systems. Like the combination which bridges wireless and the internet. Best. Cha2