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To: Dan3 who wrote (126118)1/26/2001 6:42:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dan,

You have raised a good point. AMD has become the conservative vendor. Intel has released a lot of garbage the last couple of years, and at some point the imagery will set into the subconscious of the business sector.

Having said that, my 667MHz PIII is a much faster machine than my GHz Athlon. Investing in a fast disk is more important than investing in a fast CPU these days.

Scumbria



To: Dan3 who wrote (126118)1/26/2001 7:42:56 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dan, you just love tossing out flame bait, don't you?

<Those 50,000 Itanics were sold to gullible suckers.>

Wrong. Those 50,000 Itaniums were shipped to customers who are seriously interested in testing the platform, shaking out the bugs, and increasing its reliability. Each of these customers has an active interest in seeing the IA-64 platform succeed, or else they wouldn't have bothered in the first place.

Now, if Intel all-of-a-sudden cancelled the whole IA-64 program, THEN you can call them "gullible suckers." Until then, I think the only gullible suckers out there are those who think x86-64 will amount to anything significant in the enterprise compared to Itanium or UltraSparc.

Tenchusatsu



To: Dan3 who wrote (126118)1/26/2001 9:33:59 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
ALibi Blow Hard Dan - Re: "AMD doesn't ship crap"

The 760 is crap - period.

It doesn't work at 133 MHz/266 MHz - and where it does work - 100/200 MHz - it offers little or no performance improvement.

And then we have the 24 watt MOBILE DooWRONG - with one stupid design win !

Paul



To: Dan3 who wrote (126118)1/26/2001 9:36:59 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Blow Hard Dan - Re: "Those 50,000 Itanics were sold to gullible suckers - "

Does this sound like a gullible sucker?

"SGI (NYSE: SGI - news) today announced that it will install the company's first production cluster based on Intel® Itanium(TM) processors at the Ohio Supercomputer Center (OSC). The 146-processor system will provide the Ohio research and education community with the world's largest system using the new Itanium architecture. "

I keep hearing about the Hamster slipping into H2 2002 - what's up with that?

Paul

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biz.yahoo.com

Friday January 26, 8:00 am Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: SGI

SGI System Will Make the Ohio Supercomputer Center a World Leader In Production Cluster Computing

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Jan. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- SGI (NYSE: SGI - news) today announced that it will install the company's first production cluster based on Intel® Itanium(TM) processors at the Ohio Supercomputer Center (OSC). The 146-processor system will provide the Ohio research and education community with the world's largest system using the new Itanium architecture. Part of the cluster will be devoted to the National Computational Grid Project.

``SGI is committed to bringing out the best, most powerful Itanium architecture-based solutions to the high-performance computing marketplace. We are delighted to continue our relationship with OSC to improve the performance and functionality of Linux clusters,'' said Jan Silverman, vice president, Advanced Systems, SGI.

OSC and SGI have a long history of working together on cluster technology. The relationship includes development of system software, applications software and support infrastructure concepts that enable true production cluster computing (PCC). SGI and OSC have been working on code testing and porting on the Itanium architecture using a small test cluster that has been installed at OSC since September 2000. Some of the results of this work were showcased at SuperComputing 2000 in Dallas.

``Our partnership with SGI has allowed us to stay at the forefront of supercomputing,'' said Al Stutz, OSC director. ``The installation of the Itanium processor-based cluster will provide the state of Ohio with a world-class research computing platform. We are pleased that this extends the working relationship among Myricom, OSC and SGI. The new Myricom2000 interconnect will allow us to get much higher sustained performance from our MPI jobs.''

The new cluster will replace the existing cluster of 32 SGI(TM) 1400L servers, each with four Intel Pentium® III Xeon(TM) processors at 500 MHz . To help it decide who will receive the processors from the original cluster, OSC will call for proposals from the Ohio academic community. OSC will assist faculty members in building smaller clusters in their own research labs. The systems will be provided with one-year hardware and software maintenance.

To encourage the spread of PCC in Ohio, OSC has developed a program called Cluster Ohio. The project provides statewide software licenses for compilers, debugging, math science libraries and performance tools at no cost to Ohio faculty. Ohio's research community will be able to access the new Itanium processor-based cluster through OARnet, a division of OSC. OARnet is the state's high-performance network providing Internet connectivity to more than a million people in the state of Ohio. The new PCC system will comprise 73 dual-processor servers with the Itanium architecture that will be interconnected with Myrinet2000(TM) hardware. Each server will have two Itanium processors at 733 MHz, 2MB secondary cache per CPU, 4GB of SDRAM memory and 36GB of disk space.

About the Ohio Supercomputer Center

For more than a decade, OSC has been Ohio's flagship center for high- performance computing and networking. OSC's goal is nothing less than to make Ohio the education and technology state of the future. Networking and high- performance computing are the center's core divisions, with education and technology policy initiatives rounding out the organization. OSC is located on the Web at www.osc.edu.

About SGI

SGI provides a broad range of high-performance computing and advanced graphics solutions that enable customers to understand and conquer their toughest computing problems. Headquartered in Mountain View, Calif., with offices worldwide, the company is located on the Web at www.sgi.com.

About Myricom

Myricom, Inc., is a California corporation incorporated in 1994 with eight founding employees and now has 38 employees. Myricom supplies both standard Myrinet products for clusters and LANs and specialized, high-speed computing and communication components supplied to OEM and military-system companies. Headquartered in Arcadia, Calif., with offices worldwide, the company is located on the Web at www.myri.com.

This news release includes forward-looking statements regarding the future relationship between SGI and OSC that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in such statements. Such risks and uncertainties include the integration of certain SGI(TM) products into the Ohio Supercomputer Center environment, the acceptance of the Linux® operating system and related products by markets and customers and the ability of SGI to manage a complex set of engineering, marketing and distribution relationships. Other risks are detailed in SGI's current reports on Form 10-Q and Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (www.sec.gov).

NOTE: SGI and the SGI logo are trademarks of Silicon Graphics, Inc. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Intel and Pentium are registered trademarks and Itanium and Xeon are trademarks of Intel Corporation. Myrinet and Myrinet2000 are trademarks of Myricom, Inc. All other trademarks mentioned herein are the property of their respective owners.

CONTACT: Susan Tussy of SGI, 650-933-6496, or stussy@sgi.com.

SOURCE: SGI



To: Dan3 who wrote (126118)1/26/2001 9:38:41 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
AlibiDan - Re: "When AMD releases its SMP systems, their customers can be confident that they will be buying reliable, good performing products."

If it has taken AMD 18 months and the STILL haven't got production silicon out, everybody knows that AMD's SMP "solution" will be a solution to avoid.

Paul