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To: Trader X who wrote (18740)	1/27/2001 10:12:43 PM
From: Ausdauer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 60323

Trader, re: digital photography *"Yes, I like to call it, anti-photography."* I couldn't agree more. Digital photography leaves little room for creativity and detracts from the artistic nature of film photography. I doubt one could every be truly satisfied with a digital photograph. I doubt that Adobe will ever sell another piece of software. I doubt that anyone will ever consider adding aperture priority, shutter priority or B&W options on digital cameras. I also doubt that affordable digital SLR's will ever reach the average consumer. In fact, photography is best left in the hands of professional photographers. Digital photography is generally best for snapshot shooters. No, plastic throw away cameras with grainy 800 ASA film are for "snapshot shooters". Aus

To: Trader X who wrote (18740)	1/27/2001 11:41:18 PM
From: Steve 667	Respond to of 60323

Trader x, Your ignorance about digital photography is quite remarkable! Have you been living in a cave? You don't get out much do you? You said "What if you want to do a simple special effect like speed blur the subject, or a soft focus effect, or a multiple exposure effect. Or how about under exposing the subject against a bright background, or ...<i/> Hell, my Nikon 990 will do all that and it is not even considered a "professional" digital grade camera. How about a great special effect like letting some light into that dark cave you live in. Get the picture. Steve 667

To: Trader X who wrote (18740)	1/28/2001 1:38:56 AM
From: Michael Kim	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 60323

yes, I like to call it, anti-photography Have you heard of Adobe Photoshop? All of the effects that you mention can be applied after the fact once the image has been digitally stored using any of the major image editing programs. You sound like a purist, and I have no problem with that as a former Nikon F2 user myself - yet, you cannot ignore the power that these digital tools bring to enhance creativity as opposed to limit it. I can do so much more with a digital camera now without having to have a whole bunch of lenses, speedlights, reflectors, tripods, etc., etc. - not to mention darkroom equipment! What if I want to eliminate an errant telephone pole in my otherwise perfectly composed shot? That would normally entail hours in the darkroom, compared to seconds on the computer. True, the quality is not up to 35mm yet, but it has come a long way in the past year alone - and it is only a matter of time. As for the art of photography, purists also scoffed at auto-exposure and even autofocus! Why be against any technology that gives you more power and more freedom? Also keep in mind that with the mass adoption of digital photography, less conventional film will be produced and those costs will only increase - Pay more for less creative control. Get on board, or get left behind.

To: Trader X who wrote (18740)	1/28/2001 9:43:20 AM
From: Ausdauer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 60323

Trader, A real life example. My son turned 5 yesterday. I took about 80 digital pictures in the course of 2 hours during his birthday party. Of those I deleted about a third because they were out of focus, poorly framed or composed. Of the remaining 50 or 60 I deleted another dozen or so that were duplicates. Of the remaining I will place about 30 of them on a webpage for friends and family. I hope to do that today. There are 3 or 4 pictures with red eye that I still need to correct. My wife is sending out thank you notes for the gifts. I plan to print one photo of each kid to send along. Like Craig does I take a 7 1/2" x 11" inch page and cut it into fourths to save on paper costs. If people want a whole set of prints they can easily order them from the PhotoPoint site or just call me and ask for a few more paper copies. I figure that if I had used my old camera I would have easily shot 3 twenty-four exposure rolls, plus developing (two sets of prints) and mailed out copies to each kid's parents. I would not bother to scan in all the photos to put on the website, so I guess I would probably break down and order extra photo CD's for each roll. I figure with all the costs added in the standard film route would have probably paid for another 32MB CompactFlash card and would have been much less immediate and less convenient. PS, my kids love the desktop slideshow. Can't think of how many photo albums I am still behind from my analog days. NOW I AM OFF TO CHURCH TO PRAY FOR A BETTER WEEK COMING UP! Aus