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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (124076)	1/28/2001 5:06:16 PM
From: ecommerceman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Johannes--Okay, we BOTH agree it's not murder if an abortion can save an entire family... However, IF abortion is murder, as you assert, i don't have a clue how you can let the murdering mother off with counseling. Something tells me that you wouldn't let a run-o-the-mill murderer off, then why her? Okay, maybe frying her would be a little strong, but wouldn't five years in prison be at least necessary to repay society for taking a life? Certainly, IF it's murder, then by letting her walk with some "counseling," which she'd be free to ignore, obviously, then what's to stop her from going out and murdering another "baby." Or another after that? There's a reason why your precious Dubya doesn't advocate extreme policies like yours--he'd get stomped at the polls. That's why the Republican presidents will never appoint enough "pre-life" advocates to the Supreme Court, because it would be lights out for 'em. Good, well-meaning folks like you (and I don't mean that sarcastically--I'm sure that you are that) are getting the shit manipulated out of you. Abortion on-demand will always be legal in this country--Of the last 8 presidential terms, 5 of them have been filled by Republicans, Bush Jr. will be the 9th, and I'll bet you dollars to donuts that even after his second term, if he gets another, (then the 10th Republican term to five Dem terms) that abortion on demand will STILL be legal, and good folks like you will STILL be scratching their heads wondering why..... There are perhaps occasions where abortion does not result in murder. Should my young son get trapped in the gear works so that he is certain to die, I might possibly be justified in flipping the switch to further turn the gears upon him, this, to save the rest of my family whose lives would end should I decide not to do it. In this case both he and they were already doomed, so by flipping the switch I did not doom him. I merely saved the rest of my family. If an abortion falls in line with this sort of scenario, then one could effectively argue against its being murder. In any event, whether murder or not, the parent in this circumstance can certainly be forgiven because the intent was to save lives that were already doomed. Our law accounts for intent. Contrariwise, most abortions are pure murder-- the most comprehensively barbaric legal activity in our society today. It is a thing that contradicts man's God-given right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That right extends even to the conceptus, because by nature the conceptus strives for self-expression, just as you and I do. We cannot by any objective means separate ourselves from the human conceptus. It is us. Most abortions aim to murder the thing that is us. Thy murder completely innocent children who not only poses no threat to their mothers’ lives, but who could possibly, even likely result in one of the greatest blessings those mothers will ever have. So yes, I am for outlawing the vast majority of abortions. Abortion is a sin against humanity. It is a sin against the naturally self-expressing character of human beings. What to do with the mother who is the accomplice in her child’s murder is no difficult question to answer. We give account in our law to the circumstances of lawbreakers. Women who go to the abortuaries to have their children murdered are often under duress. Taking this into account, we might sentence them to counseling and assistance, depending upon the case. The individuals who should literally fry in The Chair are abortionists, those who makes their disgusting livings from the slaughter of millions and millions of innocent children. These people live in homes and drive cars and eat food soaked in innocent blood.