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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Holly Products INC. (HOPR/HOPRD) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chris K. who wrote (2079)	1/31/2001 2:29:12 PM
From: Joseph Ziebarth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2099

Cris have you looked here in SI at older posts on HOPR? Mr. P has just barely missed being indicted with the other major shareholders of HOPR for the manipulation of that stock. IMHO he must have offered testimony to get out from under, but no-one is saying how he avoided the ax. Mr. P needs to separate CWRC from HOPR in the worst way. I am a holder in both stocks since the court judgement that cleared the property title in Blackhawk. HOPR lost its standing as a company when it became involved in a deal with the American Publishing Co. and lost all credibility. As a result of a clause that they had to be listed on the NASDAQ or return millions of shares the stock came under attack and sold at any bid you made. Thus the stock dropped from $2 to $0.02 and the people reclaimed their money, their company, and left HOPR completely discredited as a financial investment. Sounds harsh I know. I still have 20,000 HOPR shares at cost of $2+ because they are in a IRA account and will cost me $50 to clear them out. There is no transfer agent to sell them, the company is buying and selling the stocks without intermediaries. I do wonder why they want volume to show on the stock, unless they have overseas hooks out.

To: Chris K. who wrote (2079)	2/4/2001 11:04:57 PM
From: BobInBush	Respond to of 2099

Chris; At one time HOPR was supposed to own 8.8 million shares of CWRC as best as I can recall. Bill P. has been trying to distance himself from HOPR since he disconnected the phones and took down the name plate. Unless you are playing daytrading penny stock games, you should stay away from both companies, IMHO. They both have a 100% record of doing nothing but issueing press releases on deals that fall through. Put your money elsewhere! With the current market, there are plenty of deals out there in companies that are making money and have a future.