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To: jjayxxxx who wrote (27018)	1/31/2001 6:06:35 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

JJ, Why did AMD release the Duron notebook chips at relatively high power consumption, when 1) seems like they could have clocked down higher speed chips for less power consumption Stability. It's one thing to run some tests under good cooling conditions, it's very different from running a CPU for years in a notebook, with poor cooling. Joe

To: jjayxxxx who wrote (27018)	1/31/2001 6:06:46 PM
From: TechieGuy-alt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Someone on this thread did that very thing with their new AMD processor a couple of weeks ago, but I can't remember who. They had good results too. Me, Me, Me :) I got my spanking new 1.1G to run at 700MHz at 1.16 volts STABLE. I have no idea how much power it was dissipating though. For that matter, how did this "other" guy manage to measure power dissipation. I believe one needs some specialized equipment to do it (calorimeters etc.) TG

To: jjayxxxx who wrote (27018)	1/31/2001 11:02:17 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 275872

<Why did AMD release the Duron notebook chips at relatively high power consumption, when 1) seems like they could have clocked down higher speed chips for less power consumption, and 2) the palomino notebook core is right around the corner? > AMD has lost almost every design they had in the laptop place in the last 12 months (the exceptions being some low volume but high profile HP, Sony business). AMD needed to put something out immediately instead of waiting for the next best chip. As you can see Mobile Duron even at 600MHz is not bad. <I guess with the Morgan being a quarter behind, the Duron will fill the 'low end' of the notebook space. > Prcisely. It also helps improve the infrastructure situation for the follow-on offerings. <I just hope it is the same infrastructure because if it isn't it doesn't make much sense. I know the Duron chips don't have PowerNow, but I don't know how much difference that makes infrastructure-wise.> I expect Morgan to use Power-Now enabled integrated graphics mobile chipsets - so the infrastructure may not be identical to what you see today but it still would be a vast improvement over what it would be otherwise.