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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (131413)	2/3/2001 6:46:33 AM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1585415

Ten, Read the article in the Mercury News (thanks to Windsock) to understand how far off-base most of the anti-California propaganda has been: www0.mercurycenter.com Since April 1999, the energy commission has licensed nine new power plants with a combined generation capacity of some 6,300 megawatts, and six of those plants are already under construction. Almost 7,000 megawatts more should clear the siting process by this summer. The total of 13,000 megawatts represents about one fourth of current statewide peak demand. The GOP see California as a lost cause, and is going to use the state to get the ANWR bulldozed. The hysteria being whipped up by the right wrt California is quite impressive. BTW Mr. self-righteous Oregonian: statewide electricity use grew by only about 11 percent from 1990 to 1999; even in high-tech Silicon Valley, consumption was up by only 12 percent. Most of the growth that has over-stressed the western power grid occurred outside California, in neighboring states with lesser commitments to energy efficiency. Scumbria

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (131413)	2/3/2001 12:21:37 PM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585415

Ten - Re:"This is yet another sign that Californians still don't get it, and that they deserve this whole mess." If CA ever practices the "build a wall approach" that you are advocating you Oregonians are going to be in big trouble. Right now power flows across the Western power grid to the highest bidder. 25% of the power generated in CA is exported, much to the Northwest. Watch out if CA forces the plants sited in CA and owned by those out of state companies to keep all the power in the state. California will have sufficient power and Oregon will instantly have rolling blackouts. A lot of the out of state companies are from Shrub's home state of Texas and are reporting recording record profits. The former CEO of Enron is on Shrub's energy advisory committee -- he donated $100K to the inaugural alone, lots more during the election. In the past election, Enron and its officers donated millions of $$ to get Bush elected. So far, he has done a good job of protecting the wind-fall profits of the Texas based generators. Perhaps CA should install a few price controls for those Texas good ol' boys.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (131413)	2/3/2001 8:35:36 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1585415

This is yet another sign that Californians still don't get it, and that they deserve this whole mess. Tenchusatsu, They don't get it because they are not feeling its effects. In Northern and Southern CA the only ones feeling the effects across the board are old economy companies. They are the ones that signed interruptible agreements with their utility provider. The tech companies have their own resources, or can afford to pay higher non interruptible rates. Some schools and some homes have experienced the rolling blackouts in the north. As far as I know, there have been no rolling blackouts in Southern CA. Until more layoffs occur in old economy industries and their effects felt by the general population....this will continue to be a media event. Further, adding to the problem, is that the new US Energy Secretary turned down a request by the 10 Western governors, meeting in Portland, to put a short term cap on wholesale rates, to afford CA time to get its house in order. Eventually, this will become much worse as the full effect of our drought becomes known, as CA's unemployment rate rises, and as CA experiences its hottest summer in 10 years....which is inevitable.....its Murphy's Law. Further the sh*t will hit the fan if that same Energy Secretary requires that WA and OR continue to send power down to CA at their own expense. And yes, he has that power. ted