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To: E who wrote (4664)2/3/2001 8:58:40 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I know you've never used the word soul.

I can testify that, in our very lengthy discussion on the subject of abortion, Tim never once invoked any imaginary friend or fellow traveler. As I'm sure you are aware, if he had, I would have noticed.

Karen



To: E who wrote (4664)2/3/2001 9:00:22 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
Bland has never actually met X. Would she fit in a fertilized egg?



To: E who wrote (4664)2/3/2001 9:48:09 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Let's say that the fertilized egg has an X in it. That X makes it advisable to force a woman to gestate it until it becomes a child.

Or... that X actually MAKES the microscopic entity a "child" in some way having to do with the defining and sufficient quality of human beings being that X.


X is that it is a human life. It is also a seperate organism unlike a sperm cell or a finger.

I was referring to the suffering of the women forced against their will to gestate and bear and, usually, care for -- or watch starve -- children, by those not walking in those women's shoes.

Do you maintain that if abortion was outlawed in the US those that refrain from having an abortion because of the law could not possibly find any one else to take care of their children if they were unwilling or unable?

EDIT: I haven't gone back to see... but wait -- if you mean famine, and disease, from overpopulation -- if you mean that you don't think the fact that they will die in agony after living in agony, is sufficient reason to provide birth control and abortion if a woman begs for it..

I meant the possiblity that the child might die in agony years later, is not enough to justify killing it now to stop the possibility of its future agony.

Tim