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To: YlangYlangBreeze who wrote (116)2/6/2001 9:44:11 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 948
 
>>CB i think it is seldom a casual CHOICE for anybody to abort,<<

For some more casual than others.

>>but i think it is between a woman and her god<<

At some point, and this is where the arguments come in, there's a third person involved. The right to free exercise of religion isn't unlimited. Old style Mormons and present day Muslims believe in polygamy, but it's against the law in this country. Christian Scientists don't believe in using doctors, but they aren't allowed to let their children die from appendicitis.

If someone believes that it's ok to have an abortion at 39 weeks gestation, she's entitled to her beliefs, but it's against the law everywhere as far as I know.

By the way, was I right about the RU-486 or what?



To: YlangYlangBreeze who wrote (116)2/7/2001 12:58:05 AM
From: Neenny  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 948
 
YYB,
I applaud your courage in sharing your story, about giving birth and about making a choice to give up your baby for adoption. I had seen you make comment about that earlier and wondered how you would feel if she contacted you at this point in your life...(I have a friend searching for their birth mother.)

My husband and I were also involved in a situation similar to yours. A woman who had a child already became pregnant. She seen no way that she would be able to keep that child, as it waYYB,Is already a struggle for her to support her son. She was from the neighboring state. Through a Crisis Pregnancy center, this young woman came and lived with us for the duration of her pregnancy. She choose an adoptive family for her son, and gave him up for adoption. I was child-birth coach for this young woman. I know people who know that adoptive family.....I remember driving by their house the day they were able to take the baby home from the hospital...the joy they felt was obvious for the whole world to see.....from the decorations adorning their house. The birth mother, Darlene, as remained a friend to my family.....we do not see her as often as we once did, but that is ok...we helped her through a dark period in her life. I am willing to bet that she would have also wanted to keep her child if she seen that she would be able to offer it a quality of life she wanted for him. I admire your courage to have given up your baby, I am sure it was difficult.

I have another question for you...I am being very serious about this question. You say, if you had a baby test positive for MD, you would chose to flush it. As you look at your grandmother, do you think she would have rather not lived than to experience the medical condition that she has. I ask this sincerely. My father died of cancer. He fought the good fight against this disease for 17 long years. But he had a good life, in spite of it. A loving wife and children that loved him. If you could test for cancer, and knew that a baby would one day develop fatal cancer, would you trash that child as well. I have a diabetic husband. He developed diabetes at age 17. His life has my challenges and complications as a result of this disease. In spite of all that if someone told his mother while pregnant what he would live through as a diabetic...would I have wanted her to abort him. NO WAY. It has presented many challenges in his and my life.....but he is a good man, has a wife that loves him, and 4 beautiful children. Nobody's life is without some complications, but in spite of those complications, I believe most life's are worth living.

As far as girls that are counseled not to abort, that end up with children who are abused, wigged out on drugs and their life is trashed. I believe that there is an inherited risk of abuse, drugs and ruined lives in any pregnancy that happens. I believe there are women who carry to term that are horrible parents, I believe there are equal numbers of women who abort that would have a fantastic parent to the aborted child. I believe parenting to be an ever evolving learning experience as a child grows, that there are no guarantees. We live in an imperfect world and we will continue to live imperfect lives. I believe my parents did everything they believed to be right for us kids.....and not one of us has had a perfect life. I sometimes wonder how my Mom survived my teen years....I experimented with drinking and drugs....and later sex. Yet I still believe my parents made the right choices...I wonder why you call the pictures of abortion horrific?? They are the reality of what abortion is. No, they are not pretty to look at, but the are reality, just as a not so pretty picture of live birth is also reality. I don't think that pictures of aborted babies should be used to scare a girl into a decision. On the other hand, I believe that a girl/woman who is old enough to make a decision that will effect the rest of her life....make an educated, informed decision. The realities of what abortion does to a fetus, should be part of that education. Keep in mind, I have never seen a picture of any medical procedure that I thought was "pretty"

Jane