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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (5273)	2/9/2001 1:28:48 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

It'd be kinda hard to keep the "majority" in line by scaring them. It's not so hard to keep the "minority" in line by scaring them. Many, if not most, white people might be scared to walk down a black, ghetto street as a white person, but are they scared to a white person in their own neighborhood, because a black might come for them? I doubt it. Why do people not get the difference? Threaten often enough to beat up faggots, and gays in your area will keep to themselves, because they are outnumbered. That's the use of violence to control. That's what hate crime legislation is about. Violence, or at a point simply the threat of it, to control the behavior, and movements, of others. Like the sign that still stands on a mountain near here "if you're a n~~, don't be here when the sun goes down".

To: epicure who wrote (5273)	2/9/2001 5:43:48 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

When more people agree with you- the laws for hate crimes will change. think about it Pehaps it will but that doesn't mean a majority supports hate crimes laws now. Actually I think the only real majority on this issue is the muddled middle. Those who don't know, don't care, or have conflicting opinions. Personally I am against hate crimes laws. I think they are a bad idea practically and philosophically I am oppsed to them. But I am quite willing to listen to (or read in this medium) arguments to the contrary. Tim