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To: Poet who wrote (3938)	2/10/2001 8:47:11 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

Excellent article. Thanks for posting that.

To: Poet who wrote (3938)	2/10/2001 10:06:10 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

Thanks, too. And it is timely. I laughed at the fairy wand and tiara the guy got for Christmas. I noted this part, that is something our military has done and I find really wierd and wasteful: "Targeting and uncovering homosexuality was a large part of what the military did," said Edmund Hall... Whenever I have come out at work it has not been a problem. But made things better. I don't tend to discuss my personal life at work, or much of anywhere. That is partly from habit developed as a gay person, and partly just my manner. And I usually don't care to hear too much about my co-workers private lifes, though I've tended to have bosses that liked using me as relationship counselor. The times I've come out have been because it seemed the thing to do under certain circumstances. Granted, those places were not the military, but it showed me what people are capable of when presented with someone they respect and sometimes like being open with them around what can a difficult issue. And I've had people say nothing, or later thank me, saying that it changed. I've never had anyway say they were mad, or had anyone, at work, cause a problem. Outside of work, I have had problems. Perhaps in an enviroment where people count on each other, people are more likely to look at what you contribute and make an effort from their end to look past feelings that might make them stay away from you in private. And, in the end, feelings towards gays change, because they have dealt with a co-worker and found you're just kinda allright. blahblahblah.

To: Poet who wrote (3938)	2/10/2001 11:05:54 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 6089

Why bother to pretty things up by saying we are going to "consult" with our allies when we are going to "tell" our allies what we will do, and let them talk to the air? Powell Says U.S. Will Deploy Missile Shield By BARRY SCHWEID .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (Feb. 10) - The Bush administration will consult U.S. allies, Russia and China beforehand, but it will go ahead with deployment of a missile defense system if the technology checks out, Secretary of State Colin Powell says. At a news conference Friday, Powell outlined the administration's stand on an expensive system that critics say will not work and will touch off an arms race. ''We are going to consult with our allies to hear their concerns,'' he said. ''But we are not going to be knocked off the track of moving in this direction as long as the technology points us in that direction.'' A national missile defense is banned under the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty between the United States and the Soviet Union. The theory is that being exposed to deadly retaliation deters an aggressor from launching an attack. The administration hopes to persuade Russia to change the treaty to allow a U.S. missile defense program, and it is offering to share defenses with the allies. Allied leaders are responding politely to the U.S. initiative. They are voicing misgivings quietly out of respect for a new president getting his feet wet in foreign affairs. But in the ministries and corridors of national capitals, many are distressed with Washington's attitude. There are critics at home, as well. Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., told reporters this week that a U.S. missile defense program would prompt China to increase its missile program, to which India would respond with its own buildup, and Pakistan, in turn, would react the same way to India. He said the administration should clarify the kind of missile defense it wants. ''We are talking about trillions of dollars' difference,'' depending on how expansive it is, said Biden, ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Among administration options are to supplement a ground-based missile defense system, which is being tested, with a sea-based system that could provide wider coverage but would take longer to deploy. As foreseen by the Clinton administration, the ground-based system would protect all 50 U.S. states against a small-scale attack by missiles with relatively unsophisticated decoys. Powell said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will make an assessment after he ''gets his team in place.'' ''I can't tell you how long that will take,'' said Powell, but he implied it will take time because Rumsfeld ''will have to take a good, hard look at that.'' In the meantime, Powell said, ''the rest of us'' will discuss with Russia, China and U.S. allies what the administration has in mind and its overall strategy. President Bush said Friday he was ordering Rumsfeld to conduct a ''top-to-bottom'' review of the military: its strategy, missions, modernization priorities and other aspects. Included in the review is a look at how much further the nuclear arsenal could prudently be reduced, officials said. AP-NY-02-10-01 0119EST Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.