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To: combjelly who wrote (27987)	2/10/2001 2:07:24 PM
From: Harvey Allen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

combjelly- Price sells too. If you remember the furor over the $400. PC in 1999. They sold a ton of those. Maybe that's why things slowed down 4Q00. Could a $600. 1GHz liven things up again? Harvey

To: combjelly who wrote (27987)	2/10/2001 2:16:31 PM
From: peter_luc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Mmmmhh, I've found my dream system!! Combjelly, "Other than with the most pro-Intel reviewers, the P4 can't seem to garner much enthusiasm, and usually gets scorn." Not true! At least not for this system. This is my ABSOLUTE dream system. Sorry that I am going to leave AMD and become an Intel fan instead, but this system is just too convincing: hardavenue.com From the introduction of the reviewer: "Optima OCT 4210 MATX Pentium 4 1.4ghz system Review: Just about every one today involved in the pc industry here in Australia would recognise the name Optima. For international readers, Optima are one of Australia's leading retail pc producers, being around for quite some time. What I have here is an Optima 4210 Pentium 4 1.4ghz pc, which is currently leading edge as far as technology goes." It seems that Optima in Australia is still an Intel only producer - and with good reason! They convinced even me!! Now to the "leading edge as far as technology goes": CPU: Intel Pentium 4 1.4ghz RAM: 128mb RDRAM Video Card: Nvidia TNT2 M64 16mb Harddisc: 10.4 gig ultra ata/100 Sound Card: Sound Blaster PCI 128 Monitor: 15" SVGA Monitor Whoa! I LOVE these specifications, mouth watering, isn't it? And everything for only AU$2999, including even the 15"" SVGA monitor! Now to the tests: Sisoft Sandra 2001 Pro. CPU benchmark: Dhrystone ALU 2675 MIPS (Athlon 1000: 2792 MIPS) CPU multi-media benchmark: Integer SSE2 5482 (Athlon 1000: 5633) Floating-Point SSE2 6812 (Athlon 1000: 6827) Hmmmm, there must have been an error while testing. But now to the gaming benchmarks, the strongest point of the P4. The direct counterpart for comparison is a Slot-A Athlon Thunderbird 700 with a S3 Savage 4 32mb AGP graphics card. Quake 3: Oh, my dream system is beaten by the Athlon 700. But, the comparison is unfair because the Savage 4 has 32 mb memory on it!! 3d Mark 2000 - Default benchmark: Hey, now finally a victory for the P4 (by an extremely small margin but still a victory)! From the reviewers comment: "The overall 3d strength goes to the Optima p4 system, as Cpu score and general memory bandwidth are too much for the Athlon 700. Although the tnt2 m64 only has 16mb, this system still excelled past the Athlon 700 and 32mb savage 4." Yeah!! And finally let's come to the conclusions of the reviewer: "With SSE2 the p4 should excell further, and with DirectX 8 supporting SSE2 100%, in time we should see games hitting the shelves with inbuilt optimizations for a p4 cpu. (...) Decent price for a p4, ideal for a powerful budget system. Under AU$3000!" My dream system... (Damned, biased reviewer! He gave it only 5/10...) Peter