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To: fyodor_ who wrote (28011)	2/10/2001 5:04:22 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 275872

"These LN2 overclocking comparisons are dangerous." Yes they are, for all of the reasons mentioned. However I do not think that, except for the tiny sample size, they are totally useless. In the case of the Athlon, it gives a good indication that if attention was paid to the thermal issues, then there may be more headroom in the design. Whether it is worth exploring is a different issue. For the P4, there appears to be something limiting it other than thermal reasons. Considering that even with liquid nitrogen it cannot exceed 40% over it's top shipping speed is an indication that heat isn't the biggest problem. In addition, Intel is promising that they will have in production a speed on the same process that can barely be reached with LN2 in 6-9 months? Hmm, it took them a couple of years to do the same thing with the P3... By no means am I trying to claim that the current Athlon core could run at 2GHz in a 0.18 micron process. But I do find the P4 with that limit when supercooled curious considering the claims that Intel is trying to make for it.