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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (5540)	2/12/2001 2:02:23 PM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

RE:It would have been far better for my mother if she could have had an abortion. Maybe, but then you wouldn't be here to set us straight on everything!

To: epicure who wrote (5540)	2/13/2001 7:54:19 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

you would think adopted folks would be all pro-"life". But the ones I've met are all prochoice. Do you think that stance is influenced by 'I don't want other children to go through what I had to' - by increased knowledge of the misery for all sides that may accompany adoption (and surely must if the adoption is delayed, or there are unsuccessful attempts first)? I'll have to confirm with a couple of my friends, who are adopted, but I very much suspect they'd agree with you: of course, they're not selected at random so one might expect their views on 'social' matters to be likely to be close to mine. I should say I didn't know you were adopted... given that brief background, you've done very well since. I'm impressed, anyway.

To: epicure who wrote (5540)	2/13/2001 12:24:43 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

It's funny- you would think adopted folks would be all pro-"life". But the ones I've met are all prochoice. I had an interesting conversation once with someone who might have been aborted had circumstances played out just a little differently. He was passionately pro-life. He was an interesting and very bright young man whom I had occasion to mentor and befriend. We used to be able to talk about all kinds of heavy topics in an abstract way despite our very considerable differences of opinion. He was a twin, born with severe physical disabilities. His brother was handsome, as was he, athletic, newly married, and living the American dream. My friend wasn't raised to be religious but became an avid Christian fundamentalist during his teens. He had been through divinity school and law school--plenty of fodder for some interesting discussions between us. I'm quite comfortable with the notion that had I been aborted, that result would have been of no consequence to me because I would not have been sentient and therefore not realized what I had lost. He was comfortable with our abstract discussions right up to and including the point I just made, but it was very stressful for him to imagine himself in that situation, I guess because the possibility was just too close to home. We discussed it at some length. In all of our conversations, that was the only time I saw him unable to keep the discussion abstract. I'm sure his pro-life position was to a large extent a function of his disability and its implications regarding abortion. Karen