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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (5823)	2/14/2001 3:14:33 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Clearly you haven't read much about chimps, gorillas or other anthropoids. You must have never known (or observed) any animal very closely either. Our cat "mourned" for several days when our pet monkey died. I'll tell you this thought experiment. It's grisly but I need it to make my point. Consider a room full of caged chimps. Mothers, babies, dads, brothers, sisters and what not. Assume they can all see each other but are individually caged. Start at one end of the room, killing the chimps with a bludgeon. Make sure all the other chimps can see it. Move to the next cage. Record the reactions and vocalizations of the chimps and tell me that they don't "have the ability to think at such level of abstraction" about their liberty or life. I think you kid yourself. Now, open the cages and give them a choice - a comfortable habitat they are used to and another door that leads to an identical execution room. Where do you think they will go when you open the cage door? Hell, even slaughter houses are designed to keep the cattle from knowing what is going on as they make that last walk into hamburger land. That fish you catch with a hook it's mouth "doesn't feel pain the way I do". It'll probably makes you feel better to think this way, but you have absolutely no basis (other than your belief in your own superiority) to believe any of this... Ah relativism. Just be glad your kind considers you to have rights to life and liberty. Sometimes. [Edit: I'm curious. Because a fetus "doesn't think this way", are you then saying that the inability to consider one's rights removes same?]