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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dayuhan who wrote (5856)2/14/2001 8:24:08 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
It seems axiomatic that whatever a society accepts as moral and right is moral and right to them. They make it so by their acceptance. That does not mean that those actions will be considered right and moral by anybody else.

Never ceases to amaze me that such a simple and objectively true statement (or belief) can create so much controversy. Shaking head in disbelief!



To: Dayuhan who wrote (5856)2/14/2001 9:04:55 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
<<It seems axiomatic that whatever a society accepts as moral and right is moral and right to them. They make it so by their acceptance.>>

In the case of unfree societies in which any manifestation of non-acceptance by the masses of citizens (of, for example, suppression of dissent, lack of due process, forced labor, religious persecution) would be severely punished by the powerful few, the axiom would seem to require work.

I am guessing you mean that if there were universal acceptance by the members of the culture that torture was a legitimate investigatory tool, then in that culture, to them, it is. It's their rule, they must like it, IWO.

But we can still say their rule sucks, and mean it, and (as with Amnesty International) try to persuade them their rule sucks; or at least that their rule is going to cost them something because of how many outside of their culture think it sucks.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (5856)2/15/2001 12:05:23 PM
From: Bald Eagle  Respond to of 82486
 
RE:It seems axiomatic that whatever a society accepts as moral and right is moral and right to them.

That depends on your definition of society. If a minority in a society rule by force, torture and murder, does that really mean that society as a whole accepts the morals of their rulers?
The majority are forced to live under the rulers but that doesn't mean that the majority of people in that society accept the morality of the ruling class.