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To: Greg or e who wrote (5902)2/15/2001 1:21:55 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
What makes a human being a human being? What distinguishes a human being from the rest of the animal kingdom? If you say genetic information, that's present in ever single cell. If you say anything else, a zygote has a long, long time to go before it shows anything uniquely "human".

Life has many potentialities, and many paths not taken. If you want to enforce a particular path on women who are pregnant and don't want to be (maybe even in cases of rape and incest, if you think like the current AG), you can profess that belief, but your profession doesn't make it true. Calling a fertilized egg an "innocent child' may fuel your moral self righteousness, but it doesn't give you the power to tell women faces with difficult choices what they can and cannot do. Pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion, it means pro-choice, and letting people profess their own beliefs.



To: Greg or e who wrote (5902)2/15/2001 1:32:21 PM
From: Greta Mc  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
You wrote:

"Exactly when does the unborn child receive the designation of human being. If you are not sure, why would you not want to err on the side of life, rather than take the chance of killing an innocent child?"

That is exactly my problem with agreeing with abortion....I simply am not sure when we're talking about the taking of an innocent human life.

Therefore, as an American citizen, I respect the laws of the country, but my mind continues to err on the side of the possibility that an innocent person is being lost through each abortion.



To: Greg or e who wrote (5902)2/15/2001 2:36:38 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Actually some societies only acknowledge the humanness of children at 1 year. I would suspect that culturally that has something to do with infant mortality. A friend of mine called really young kids "bio-blobs" (he had kids).

They are pretty much just eating and pooping machines for the first few months. You start to see some humanity after a while, but you have to look pretty close with the young ones. I've got an 11 year-old and even she's not very human sometimes.

I think this "potential" development is a process. That brain of the baby isn't even fully cooked when it comes out of the oven. It's as big as evolution would allow and still provide any mobility in human women.

As a practical matter, I don't think I'd want to pass anything the size of a medium melon through ANY orifice I have.



To: Greg or e who wrote (5902)2/15/2001 9:19:05 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 

I'll ask you the same question nobody else seems to want to address. Exactly when does the unborn child receive the designation of human being.

We don't know.

If you are not sure, why would you not want to err on the side of life, rather than take the chance of killing an innocent child?

Because I can't stomach the idea of me, you, or anybody else forcing a woman to bear a child that she does not want.