To: f.simons who wrote (133074 ) 2/19/2001 5:46:40 PM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1570761 The Israelis and the Americans agreed a long time ago that Israel simply cannot be involved in military actions like this. That is why Israel didn't even counter-attack when Saddam was raining missiles down on them during the Gulf war. Frank, I will take your word on it. But for the moment lets forget their actual participation, the Israelis initial response in terms of public support was surprisingly weak [for the Isrealis].What about the Australians? Where were the Canadians? There are serious logistical problems involved for both countries in addition to the fact that both were probably home minding their own business. Meaning what? What logistical problems do they have that are so different from ours?American and British pilots and planes are the ones being threatened by Saddam's radar installations. You can argue that we shouldn't have forces there at this point, but not that they don't have a right to defend themselves once there. From what were they defending themselves? Was there a recent attack on British and American planes? I found no evidence of such.I don't have a clue who Harry is. If he posted something, I came on the thread after his post. In any event, I am not upset muchless blindly patriotic. You haven't read many of my political posts to even suggest such a thing. Frank, in all honesty, how would I know your political positions? You post on this thread infrequently and rarely on politics. I don't particularly like Bush, and certainly did not vote for him. I am not even sure I agree with the strikes that were made. However, to suggest that the failure of other "allies" to participate proves that the strikes were ill-advised, which was your original point, is simply inaccurate, IMO. That's where we disagree. When embarking on a mission with the potential ramifications that this one has, I think it would be in our best interest to have as much support from our allies as possible.....but as it turns out, they were not even consulted. As for Hussein, I have nothing but contempt for him and wished they had finished him off ten years ago. However, at this point, I think that he is nothing more than a paper tiger......a year of war and ten years of economic embargo have done their job. ted