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To: tejek who wrote (133139)2/19/2001 10:00:38 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1570814
 
As for Hussein, I have nothing but contempt for him and wished they had finished him off ten years ago. However, at this point, I think that he is nothing more than a paper tiger......a year of war and ten years of economic embargo have done their job.

His army is probably stronger now then it was after the war, but it is much weaker then before the war. It can't stand up to the US army in its wildest dreams, but what if Iraq has nuclear weapons in 5 years? (What if it has a couple now?) Iraq still has the strength to take Kuwait again and perhaps plant a nuke in Kuwait city threatening to blow it if we interfere. Or maybe Riyadh gets hit with a neve gas warhead. I'm not saying this is likely. Just that Saddam is still a threat. The threat will increase if the sanctions and close watch on Iraq are dropped without some way to monitor and stop Saddam's special weapons programs. It would have been nice if we could have eliminated this threat 10 years ago, but if we had marched on Baghdad we would probably still be there. Not that there was any armed force that could have stoped us, but if we kicked out Saddam we would have had to take control.


From what were they defending themselves? Was there a recent attack on British and American planes? I found no evidence of such.


I think American and British planes ahd radar locked on to them without any recent actual SAM attacks. You could consider it a threat instead of an attack. Its kindof like someone pulling a gun at you without fireing it.

Tim



To: tejek who wrote (133139)2/20/2001 8:24:22 AM
From: f.simons  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570814
 
Ted-

What logistical problems do they have that are so different from ours?

To the best of my knowledge, neither has operation-capable air forces in the area.

From what were they defending themselves? Was there a recent attack on British and American planes? I found no evidence of such.

Saddam was in the process of building new and highly sophisticated radar installations which were the targets of the raid. Were Britain and the US supposed to wait until one of their planes was shot down before taking out the radar? Those radar installations have only one purpose: To shoot down US and British planes. Who else threatens Iraq? Again, you can argue that we shouldn't be there to begin with, and maybe I would agree with you. But I have a hard time buying that we don't have a right to limited, targeted preemptive strikes on installations like this.

Frank, in all honesty, how would I know your political positions? You post on this thread infrequently and rarely on politics.

Sorry about that. I posted frequently on the Intel thread during the election/campaign and you are a frequent poster there, or at least used to be.

As for Hussein, I have nothing but contempt for him and wished they had finished him off ten years ago. However, at this point, I think that he is nothing more than a paper tiger......a year of war and ten years of economic embargo have done their job.

We can disagree on this too. How many days do you think it would take Hussein to re-occupy Kuwait if all American and British forces left and went home? Remember, this is a guy that fired missiles at Israel, a nuclear power. He doesn't think like the rest of us.
It is precisely the latest chicken-sh*t reaction of our wonderful allies that would make him think that we would never be able to put together an effective coalition again.

Frank