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To: Joe NYC who wrote (128158)2/23/2001 12:43:27 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Joe - Re: "Do you mean that you can just drill some holes into the P4 423 pin socket to fit in the new CPU? Or how about plugging 184 pin DDR SDRAM DIMM into a 184 pin RDRAM socket?"

Not at all.

I mean that when AMD eventually does get a working Hamster chip, AMD will be "hamstrung" in getting chip sets and motherboards and heat sink/fans, etc. to support it.

As for Intel's Pentium 4, the new socket parameters have been known for over 6 months - and both Intel and Via are addressing these - and word from Taiwan indicates that late this year we just may see all these new sockets/P4's and DDR memories sitting on motherboards.

Like this:

aceshardware.com

VIA Pro2002 : 333 MHz DDR for Pentium 4 (HARDWARE)
Posted By johan
Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 6:49:36 AM

Viahardware has published an interesting preview of VIA's upcoming chipset for the Pentium 4, the PX266. THe PX266 will be launched in the 3rd quarter and will support PC2100 DDR. A few highlights:

Another new development is the confirmation from sources close to VIA that the PX266 will support 2 Northwood processors in SMP. It appears the currently shipping Pentium 4 is not SMP capable in any form
Some of the extra 55 pins (Northwood = 478, Willamette = 423) pins seem to be used for SMP capabilities.


PX266 will also officially support the 133MHz bus, which Intel will be transitioning to with the Northwood processor. By virtue of the P4's Quad Data Rate (QDR) bus, a 133MHz processor bus will be able to transfer data at an effective 533MHz. Combined with the 64Bit data path, the 533MHz bus delivers an astounding 4.2GB/s in bandwidth.
Intel sure wants to win the bandwidth race. A 4.2 GB/s interface will make the Pentium 4 shine even more in bandwidth sensitive applications. Our tests show that the current i850 chipset delivers about 1.5-1.6 GB/s, compared to 890-1120 MB/s for the AMD760 chipset.

Our next article, which should be published today, will show you some of the applications that are very bandwidth sensitive. Most games however are more sensitive to latency, see here.

VIA plans to follow up PX266 with a chipset codenamed "Pro2002". This chipset will support the DDR333 technology that VIA is pushing as a stop-gap between PC2100 and DDR-II. Also, Intel's Infiniband technology will be supported, along with 64Bit PCI and PCI-X. As it targets the high-end market, Pro2002 will support Foster and its future iteration, Prestonia.
It is interesting to see that Intel and VIA have been fighting quite a lot the past years, but that VIA could be a very important ally. The VIA PX266 could give the Pentium 4 more market acceptance. I am curious whether or not Intel will still try to regain the lost market share in the chipset market. Will Intel adapt the same strategy as AMD: making share of the chipset market less important to increase the acceptance of the platform?

VIA seems to prioritize the Intel Pentium 4 market over the AMD Athlon market, just like before. It is very likely that the P4 platform will have (VIA's ) 333 MHz DDR boards on the market before the Athlon platform will.

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