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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (6477)	2/25/2001 6:10:09 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

because he just does Well, I appreciate that, Karen. However, I don't know what "just does" means exactly. And I hope you will forgive my curiosity. I don't believe passionate motive springs from a "just does", and I would just as soon exercise that old adult option of just asking. Perhaps I am just tired or just burnt out. Now, I do not believe a person should be held forever to the limitations of an old remark about not changing their mind. The offer to re-think ones position is not invasive, especially when it is unclear whether the position has been thought in the first place. If you wish to characterize it as a challenge, then please accept that I can characterise your post in the same way; And I consider a challenge as an opportunity to grow, and an invitation to move ahead. I already made it clear that my invitation to clarify his position was based on a moral desire to avoid "misunderstanding you" (him). However, I do wish to be fair. If he tells me that he just does believe that, and that there just is no reason for it--I will be considerate enough to forego any discussion with him on this matter, or upon any other.

To: Lane3 who wrote (6477)	2/25/2001 8:59:43 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Perhaps if we look at the " act " of conception ... as where life really begins . Creating life is just that , an an act of creating . ... life really begins as conscious (sacred) decision,made by two mature , sentient & aware ,deeply dedicated adults ....hopefully with a little joy and comprehension in their own lives to begin with. Discussing whether life begins 2 minutes after fertilization or 2 months ... isn't it rather a little too late in the game to be discussing a child's present & future potential to be bonded to anyone or to be taught ? Far too many children having children. and not every child a wanted child ... is the beginning of a truely sad story . And it is a desperate ,horrifying & terribly lonely existence most of these children will face throughout their lives. The issue of contraception vs non-contraception ? A woman's rights to protect herself against pregnancy ? The stand against this is one of the biggest farces of the 20th century . It is no wonder the Church has seen it's number of applications to the priesthood dwindle by almost 5 fold over the past 40 years in America. It's called "desperation" and being "clueless"...and a last ditch effort to appear " Holy ", unique and a relevant authority in the modern world . ** just a small rant..... ;-)