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To: ftth who wrote (10555)	2/25/2001 10:52:10 PM
From: Scott Zion	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Hello ftth, this interesting little snippet was from the most recent americasnetwork online issue. I have no idea how Nielsen NetRatings defines "active US users"...X hours/day? The Coming Bandwidth Bubble Burst americasnetwork.com ---snip--- As the Internet market matures, usage patterns are consolidating. Nielsen NetRatings has recorded a significant drop in the number of active US users, from 77 million to 70 million between January and October 2000. Other surveys suggest that the average user is spending less time online and visiting fewer sites.

To: ftth who wrote (10555)	2/26/2001 12:51:56 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 12823

Hi ftth, Per your site, Cyberatlas, the "Active Internet universe -(actually surfed)" declined 2.2% from December, 2000 to January, 2001. But, one month's statistics doesn't make a trend, eh? cyberatlas.internet.com January, 2000 cyberatlas.internet.com Seems you are right, ftth, the "Current Internet Universe" continues to grow at a rapid clip. From 122MM nodes in 1/00 to 168MM nodes in 1/01. By my calculation, a 37% growth, YoY. The USIC.org site: usic.org yielded an interesting .pdf entitled "State of the Internet 2000" If you take a look at page 6, you'll see a graphic in the upper RH corner that depicts "Active Adult Internet Users in the US. Unfortunately, it does not include the statistics for 2000. However, an examination of the curve of added users indicates that the rate of growth slowed substantially in 1999. There is still growth, but it certainly is not anything like it was in the period from Jan, '97 through Jul '98. The Cisco site is stale. No meaningful data beyond March, 2000. No way. You chill too easily these days Ray. Probably. But it's a safer bet than uninformed optimism. Just hunkering down for the recession..... <g> Best, Ray :)

To: ftth who wrote (10555)	2/26/2001 2:39:26 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Re: maybe they all cancelled their dialup service, expecting to get DSL installed and are still waiting<ggg> Whaddaya think elmatador?]. It could be more the case that people smashed their PC's of pure frustration with the level of ADSL service of Verizon and SBC. Until they get a new PC they are not connected. So it can be even that the guys on the Dell Thread pick this up as an indication that the PC business will pick up soon. Just look at the six billion invested in ADSL by Project Pronto that has a potential to cause a quite big numbers of PC's smashed.