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To: Scumbria who wrote (29561)	2/25/2001 11:31:55 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 275872

Re: "200MHz DDR has the same bandwidth, and lower latency than the fastest RDRAM." No kidding ? Can't wait to see how the 400 MHz DDR does ! Intel pushes for 400MHz DDR By Jack Robertson, EBN Feb 23, 2001 (12:55 PM) URL: ebnews.com Intel Corp. is quietly pushing the DRAM industry to develop a 400MHz double-data-rate SDRAM to succeed today's memory devices in PCs and server applications, according to industry sources familiar with the company's initiative. Sources said Intel, Santa Clara, Calif., is calling on the industry to develop the higher-speed chips, which would be approximately 66% faster than emerging PC266 DDR SDRAM, to match memory clock speeds to the company's 400MHz IA-32 quad-pumped processor bus. Intel is hoping prototypes of the 1.8V chips could be available as early as next year, sources said. It's unclear how the 400MHz DDR SDRAM specification would relate to an industry-led DDR-II development effort that is expected to yield chips of the same frequency. Memory suppliers and third-party chipset vendors have been working with JEDEC (Joint Electron Devices Engineering Council) to define the 400MHz DDR-II standard. Intel has become increasingly involved in DDR-II standards deliberations in the past year, and sources said the company is trying to accelerate market adoption of the technology from its projected 2003 launch. Sources added that it's possible the new Intel initiative and the DDR-II specifications could be melded into one standard. An Intel spokeswoman declined to comment on the company's development plans. Some DRAM industry executives indicated that Intel is asserting itself in the standards process much as it did when it drove the earlier PC100 SDRAM standard to fruition by taking ownership of chip validation. The executives, who asked not to be identified, said Intel's presence helped pull together the myriad pieces of the PC100 standard and got it to market sooner. By contrast, the DDR specification-which admittedly is a more complex endeavor-has proved a cumbersome, disjointed effort as IC makers, chipset suppliers, motherboard makers, and OEMs deliberate without a unifying voice. Sources with knowledge of Intel's plans said the company is not driving the DDR specification at the expense of Direct Rambus DRAM, but rather in recognition that its customers want options when it comes to their choice of memory interface. “Intel is covering all its memory options at this point, and will promote next-generation development of both memory types to let the market pick the winner and the loser,” said one chip executive. The standardization of a 400MHz DDR SDRAM is under way even before the industry has defined the 333MHz DDR chip and module that will immediately succeed PC266 SDRAM. Sources said Intel is more interested in the 400MHz clock speed because it matches the company's new quad-pumped processor bus. While microprocessor makers invariably try to match memory clock speeds as a multiple of their CPU bus frequencies, Intel in this instance has found that its platform's parallel data access is more efficient with memory and processor buses running at the same frequency, sources said. Already, Intel's Pentium III processor is set to begin using 400MHz DDR chips as part of Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox game player. However, the processor and memory will share a point-to-point on-board connection that does not require the added complexity of a core-logic chipset. Memory-IC makers are supplying 400MHz DDR and even higher-frequency chips for point-to-point graphics cards, which don't require the same strict adherence to IC timing issues as PCs and higher-end computers.

To: Scumbria who wrote (29561)	2/26/2001 12:01:58 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

All the AMDroids can now make fun of DDR Rebates to be given by VIA, et. al. After all - Intel's RAMBUS rebates had all you AMDroids butt-slapping yourselves silly !!! aceshardware.com Cheaper DDR SDRAMs on Horizon (HARDWARE) Posted By KH Yeap Sunday, February 25, 2001 - 11:13:43 PM Good news for DDR fans: according to Ctech Taiwan report, DDR SDRAM prices are going to drop substantially thanks to the latest initiative from VIA (chipset maker), Nanya (memory chip maker) and Apacer (memory module maker). Using a rebate scheme similar to that employed by Intel for its chipset and RDRAM, these three Taiwanese companies are joining forces to offer a US $99.00-deal on DDR Chipset + 128 MB DDR SDRAM combo . With large quantity order, the combo price will be further reduced to US $90.00. This reflects a discount of approximately 35% or about US $50.00, in comparison to the current market prices for VIA DDR chipset + DDR SDRAM when purchased seperately. Even though the rebate program only applies to motherboard OEMs, it is expected that the discount will be extended to benefit the end-users in the market. This latest attempt spearheaded by VIA should stir up more interests and will hopefully result in faster adoption in DDR technology, whose popularity has thus far been hampered by higher than expected price premium. >> Discuss this Topic on General: 1 Comments in Thread