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To: Ilaine who wrote (72335)2/27/2001 12:56:37 PM
From: chic_hearne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
- in short, it was a clustershag, the economic equivalent of the Perfect Storm.

You mean a little like all the baby boomers that will start retiring soon?

As the bear grinds away, many are starting to figure out after a bad year that they didn't save enough. After another bad year or two, they will really understand that they didn't save enough.

Therefore, they are likely to cut spending and put their money into forms of retirement accounts. Many of the bulls would like to lead you to believe that this is the perfect recipe for higher equity prices. If you take the rose colored glasses off, you ultimately will see that higher equity prices are the result of higher earnings and revenue by the underlying companies. So we have a large percentage of Americans nearing retirement, slowing spending, and increasing saving.

So do equity prices go up? Simple answer, no. They aren't gonna buy Cisco just because it's Cisco. If Cisco's business slows, they will sell the shit out of it no matter how much money is thrown at it. So where does this money go? Money heaven, and a few lucky shorts. Say Cisco gaps down $5, that's $40 BILLION worth of money gone out of the system, in theory.

That's the environment we're stuck with for some time. The argument that the boomers will power the stock market higher is foolish IMHO. In fact I see it as they will be the leading cause to slow consumer spending and grind our economy to a halt. Or to use your storm analogy, they are the eye of the huricane.



To: Ilaine who wrote (72335)2/27/2001 1:18:36 PM
From: yard_man  Respond to of 436258
 
Nonsense ... you are thinking only of the US

But what does that imply -- that a recurrence is unlikely?
I think such an observation (the frequency of such episodes) is irrelevant to the chances of one occuring now

Not rooting for a collapse, but think the danger is high -- very high right now



To: Ilaine who wrote (72335)2/27/2001 2:01:12 PM
From: Mike M2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
CB, the Austrian response to monetarist view that the Fed can prevent depressions. gold-eagle.com While it is true that major busts are rare events they are followed by major booms which are also rare events. I expect the Austrian school to get the respect it deserves after the TL & EV. Mike



To: Ilaine who wrote (72335)2/27/2001 2:08:10 PM
From: Earlie  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 436258
 
CB:

I would bet you that before the end of this year, you will revise your views. I have never seen economic activity implode so quickly nor so violently in 20 years of looking at this stuff. In my view, we are already well entrapped in a deflationary spiral. How the heck do we avoid it at this stage?

Best, Earlie