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To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (30085)	3/2/2001 1:27:23 PM
From: kash johal	Respond to of 275872

Andreas, Seems like mass confusion on AMD's roadmap etc. I am dumping all my AMD at 22. Not a bad $1.50 gain for a days trading. Good luck everyone. regards, Kash

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (30085)	3/2/2001 2:02:09 PM
From: Harvey Allen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Andreas- Yes I have the same board. Initially I benchmarked it with a Duron 700 OC'd to 933 which was the only way to test the PC2100 at 266FSB. I wasn't overwhelmed by the memory numbers either but they were way higher than the P-III's I had been using with VIA chipsets and Intel's terrible i820 with SDRAM MTH. My memory numbers were also better than any of the comparative Athlon systems listed but of course far lower than the P4/Rambus memory numbers. I'm content right now with a 800MHz TBird running @ 904 using only 226FSB (PC1600 range). The TBird's cache makes up for the reduced FSB and overall my system feels quicker in this configuration than with the higher speed Duron. I believe I have a great increase of performance ahead of me and I'm only waiting for the right prices to come along and of course availability. I'm really kicking myself for not bidding higher on this Blue Core T-bird 750@1000: cgi.ebay.com That would have solved my 266FSB problems through the end of 2001. Overall, I don't think Sandra does a very good job measuring latency or L1/L2 cache effectiveness and the best measure is the performance of your primary job. I do database development and my feeling is TBird/DDR is the right environment for me. SMP offers a still better future. Harvey P.S. I read recently that the jump from EDO to SDRAM was only on the order of 10-15% and FPM to EDO even less so if we can get 15-20% out of SDR to DDR it's a pretty big deal.

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (30085)	3/2/2001 2:16:38 PM
From: bacchus_ii	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

RE:". With SANDRA 2001 I get about 560/710 (CPU/FPU memory bandwidth in MBytes/sec) with CAS 222 and BIOS 1.003. With an A7V133, PC133 CL2 and the latest BIOS I get 525/618 which is only 10-15% lower. " Not to brag anyone but with a 1.2@1.41 FSB 148(note sure if I still can go that fast), with KT7A-RAID, PC150 cas3 running at cas2, I got 618/687. geocities.com Sorry for poor presentation but ... well... I'm not a hardware analyst :-( Gottfried

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (30085)	3/2/2001 4:55:41 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Andreas, Do you know what the schedule of AMD pricing changes and new speed grades is? It seems that Monday 3/5 will be it, since there was some drop in prices in anticipation of this date and th C models plus some 1.3 GHz chips are starting to appear. Joe

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (30085)	3/5/2001 10:31:33 PM
From: Harvey Allen	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 275872

andreas-The 60.29 Crucial PC2100 arrived and it is very good. My Duron 700 is now running with it at 146 x 7.0 = 1022MHz. The Sandra Memory benchmark ALU/FPU is now 627/791: harveyallen.netfirms.com Even better, the CPU score on the Duron 700 beats the 1.5Gig Pentium 4 ALU score 2866 to 2807: harveyallen.netfirms.com The Crucial Micron PC2100 is a good deal. The chips are 46V8M8-75 and are listed in the A7M266 manual, though the Micron DDR module model differs. Here is the Crucial link for anyone interested. I went to order another 128MB but right now they're out of stock. crucial.com Again the LostCircuts A7M266 review was right on the money. The Huyandi DDR was crap and the Micron DDR works fine if you give it lots of juice. lostcircuits.com At current prices my Bill of Materials looks like: $204. A7M266 MotherBoard $61. 128MB Micron PC2100 DDR $45. Duron 700 $27. TaiSol Forged HS/Fan ------ $337. Total Not bad for a setup that outguns Intel's best. Harvey