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To: TobagoJack who wrote (15497)	3/3/2001 11:05:33 PM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19079

Jay, nothing is free. You say you have "free" healthcare. Somebody is paying for it, and probably paying more than they really should. As far as all the things you go on about, (and I have been there) Hong Kong isn't even close to the US. It was, for a time, but the change is taking a toll. Things here in the US are great. I can't think of one thing to complain about, not even health care. I don't consider health care a right...it's a responsibility. Aside from catastrophic care (which, by the way, is free here BY LAW), everything about your health is pretty much up to YOU to take care of. If you don't, why should the system support bad habits (smoking, drinking to excess, eating to excess, not exercising)? By the way, you're wrong about how the multiplier effect on foreign ownership works. Which country has the highest level of foreign ownership of its economy? Canada...yet they believe that they live better than US citizens in most cases. Which country has the highest level of ownership outside its country? Holland. I think if you question them, they'd have the same things to say... Nothing is as clear cut as you would stake it.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (15497)	3/4/2001 12:11:38 AM
From: Bipin Prasad	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 19079

Jay, I was born and raised in Korea. When I went to HonKong first time over 25 yrs ago, I was shocked to know how efficient Folks were. The most impressive incident was at a bus stop. The bus fair was constantly changing according to supply and demand on spot for passengers and bus drivers. What a concept. Price change on real time! I've never seen anything like that. I was so intrigued with Hong Kong's economic system and food and most of all shopping, I used to fly there every few months for shopping from Taiwan where I was studying Chinese at that time. You can't pick one or a few areas and generalized the whole society. I assume you are not an average folk over there, certainly not a Philippino daily labor who can't afford for health care or a shelter. My cleaning folks in Minnesota not only can afford for their home sweet home, but also they own a cabin to enjoy weekends. Their adopted kid is as active in sports as my kids... Hong Kong is a great place to visit/or live if you're rich, on the other hand, I never met any rich around the world who doesn't have a house/s in US, especially their kid/s in US. Wonder why they send their precious kid/s to US ? Try Hong Kong. You have rights. We have freedom. You make lots with much. We make much with nothing. If you're rich, you can have right, freedom, make a lot with little/or a lot from any place in the world. In our primary residence in MN, I meet so many foks who are who is who here if not in the nation. Almost all once waited table or came to this country with little money like $25 and one suitcase with full of DREAMS. All of us worked like dogs and many of us still work like dogs. US is the country for dreamers from poor or rich. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but remember to look at the big picture. If you're poor in HK, can you really have all those? Hee hee hee, ... "Give dessert to those who doesn't have food on the table ......" sounds familiar? Either living in a glass house or intellectually dishonest a little bit? later, InSook Prasad

To: TobagoJack who wrote (15497)	3/4/2001 1:21:13 AM
From: Milan Shah	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 19079

<<Japan essentially stole the technology/innovation leadership from the US>> I think the Japanese worked pretty diligently for it, and stealing is a strong concept. I must apologize for my poor choice of words - by "stealing", I meant the kind one finds in an exciting race, where the #2 guy "steals" the lead position through skill and energy. I count amongst my good friends many of Japanese heritage, and have a tremendous amount of respect for the Japanese - with such a huge lead in electronics, I am really surprized that they managed to lose the lead position on computers, software, and semiconductor technology (things like 0.13u processes etc.) to the US, and things like wireless phones to the Europeans. Milan