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To: Ali Chen who wrote (134318)3/8/2001 1:39:40 AM
From: Mani1  Respond to of 1575175
 
Ali re <<guns are designed with a primary purpose to kill people.>>

Yes, it is as simple as that. And that is why I own one. Currently very few guns are used in that manner, but potency to kill is certainly the primary design.

Re <<If killing people is within your definitions of a civilized society...>>

Unfortunately, any society is only as civil as its least civilized member. I certainly hope that you, and other nice people, will not have to learn this first hand, it is certainly not a pleasant experience!

Mani



To: Ali Chen who wrote (134318)3/8/2001 9:35:18 AM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575175
 
Ali Re..Repeat after me: guns are designed with a primary
purpose to kill people.
If killing people is within your definitions of a
civilized society, I rest my case. <<<<<<<<<<<


While killing people is what a lot of guns ultimately do, most guns certainly aren't bought with that in mind. We could compare this with a car. Most people buy a car for purposes other than getting drunk and maiming people. Most people buy cigarettes for purposes other than getting cancer. Cigarettes kill far more people each yr. than guns. Most people buy guns for sport and protection. If we follow your logic, we would have to take the guns away from the police. In order to take guns out of the criminals and the deranged hands, we must also take them out of the people's hands who have legitimate reasons for owning a gun; and that is the problem. One way would be to have a police state, where we feel the police can control the criminals. It hasn't happened yet, but maybe you can suggest a way to make that happen. Instead of demonizing the issue, why not come up with solutions to the problem.

Here is my solutions.

1. Set up a national registry, such that any gun involved in a crime can be identified. Before a gun can be sold, a manufacturer must shoot a bullet and send it in to the registry, so the gun owner can be identified.

2 do not allow cop killer bullets.

3 No plastic guns which can avoid detection, from detectors. Plastic guns must be made with some metal; or it has to be detectable.

4 No special grips which do not allow finger prints.

This is just a partial list. If we make it tough for the criminals to use a gun, a lot of people would feel a lot safer. If the NRA would just bend on some rules, then they would get some sympathy from the rest of us. Certainly a reasonable compromise can be reached.



To: Ali Chen who wrote (134318)3/8/2001 11:47:30 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1575175
 
But do not tell me about defending your home against
government invasion.


Ali,

I hope you know that I was being sarcastic when I wrote that post and am adamently against the mass ownership of guns.

ted



To: Ali Chen who wrote (134318)3/8/2001 11:48:09 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575175
 
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