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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (8113)	3/9/2001 12:11:44 PM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 82486

It seems that the religious response has been reactionary in the most basic sense of the word. As science makes discoveries, hard-core Christianity has retrenched, forming a physical rift between scientific truth and spiritual truth. Spiritual truth, as developed by these hard-liners, now has to exist in a logical vacuum where the truths of science no longer can touch it. But it is a foolish approach because now religion is like the "boy in the bubble". If the bubble pops, its dead. I don't see how they can extricate themselves from this without considerable public crayfishing - and no one likes to lose face. They will have to "unsay" all sorts of silly things they've been saying for 50 to 100 years. If one takes the bible as the literal (and not the figurative) word of God, then the rift will just widen. I'm already concerned that there is a cultural evolution going on here on the planet that is creating a new rift between the technologists and the anti-technologists.

To: Lane3 who wrote (8113)	3/9/2001 2:22:27 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

There is one side of my family that are Christian fundamentalists and I work in the field of science. They often discuss how science and education leads one down a path that goes away from God. I have always argued the opposite ......that is; that science leads one to believe in God to a greater degree. The more one sees how intricate and complicated our world is the more one may think that a greater being created it all and is still engineering it's evolution. I don't find a problem merging the two sides of the story, however I know many who home school their kids to avoid evolution teachings.And also to avoid tolerance of alternative life styles which is a huge taboo for "Christians". I did mean "Christians" with a tongue in cheek attitude as I believe that intolerance is not an idea that stems from a loving God.

To: Lane3 who wrote (8113)	3/10/2001 2:42:41 PM
From: Constant Reader	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I thought some here might be interested in the response of the local leader of the so-called "Christian Right" to the bloodshed in Santee. I earnestly hope they start a recall drive and will donate to it if they do. School trustee says hopeless comments about life heard from students By Jill Spielvogel STAFF WRITER March 7, 2001 A day after the shootings at Santana High School, a school district trustee who is active in anti-abortion protests put out a news release blaming the violence on students' "consistent disrespect for human life." Gary Cass, a trustee for the Grossmont Union High School District and a local pastor, said he and other members of the anti-abortion San Diego Christians United have heard disturbing and hopeless comments about life from Santana High students during rallies on the edge of school grounds. "I have heard some very strong comments, troubling comments that not only seem to devalue life in general but sometimes even their own lives," he said. Trustee Ted Crooks said he was aghast at his colleague's statements. "I remain appalled at Mr. Cass' lack of sensitivity, taste, even manners, that he would make this kind of baseless, despicable attack on students that don't need any attackers right now," Crooks said. "I think Mr. Cass confused disrespect for him with disrespect for human life." Crooks said Cass put personal political gain above the needs of the students. Crooks and Cass have frequently been on opposing sides of school board issues. Santana is a wonderful school with caring, thoughtful students, board President Dan McGeorge said. The board and district should concentrate on healing and dealing with the tragedy families and the community are facing, he said. Cass said that his group has demonstrated at other campuses in the Grossmont district but that statements showing a disrespect for life were stronger at Santana than at the other schools. He said the problem is a national one, though, and that schools everywhere need to look at religious education as a way to give students a moral foundation. The school district's administration declined comment. Copyright 2001 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.