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To: Machaon who wrote (131352)3/12/2001 2:20:03 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Not favoring gay marriage is not necessarily a manifestation of hatred. Questioning the appropriateness of "hate laws" is not the same as defending one's right to hate.

Even if homosexuality were a comparatively harmless deviance, at this point in time people need to be encouraged to be steadier in their erotic relationships. Families will be more stable and sexuality will be less predatory, if people are not as prone to "follow their bliss. It sends the wrong signal to say that homosexuality is perfectly acceptable, and even place it on the same footing as heterosexual marriage. Almost every argument that has been used to make homosexuality appear to be more acceptable could be used to dull our opposition to destructive sexual practices.

As for "hate crimes", one cannot be penalized for the "message" involved in a criminal act. However, there is already latitude to take into account aggravating factors, like hostile intent, under certain circumstances. For example, vandalism is worse if it is used as a means to force someone to move through intimidation, and sentencing can reflect that. Thus, in most instances hate crime legislation is either unconstitutional or superfluous.



To: Machaon who wrote (131352)3/12/2001 2:30:46 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston  Respond to of 769667
 
Conservatives can't point the finger of hatred at gays, and also support anti-hate laws.

As long as you've got the broad brush going, I'd say they (conservatives) do neither. Just more politics of division, perhaps you should put a more positive spin on it and say Pro-love laws. You like to institutionalize your fears so you can create your own institution or movement to wage war against them.



To: Machaon who wrote (131352)3/12/2001 5:21:54 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
So if someone kills me because I'm caucasian, that's worse than killing me for money? Why?
Am I any less dead either way? Why are not both first degree murder?

Hate laws are a violation of the First Amendment. They are the latest liberal effort to institute Thought Police.