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To: cfimx who wrote (41949)	3/12/2001 7:41:59 PM
From: paul	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

Twister - Regarding ebay..i put something on the MSFT thread because SOME people obviously dont read the contents of a press release: Ebay agreed to replace their "front end" servers with Win 2000 - well la dee da, guess what those front end servers were running before - Windows NT - hello??. well Meg won't have to send those win2k rebate coupon's in since MS is willing to do the upgrades for them - note how Ebay was very careful with their wording here. Ebay and Microsoft cooperating on .NET? - This Ebay API is based on XML - the smoke and mirrors .NET is based on XML, SOAP etc..all standards supported by a wide variety of companies including Sun - Ebay's API and .Net is compatible out of the box. Microsoft's challenge which their racking their brains on is how to co-opt these standards for their own benefit - they havent found an answer yet but by the time .Net becomes what Microsoft says it will be who knows. The real news is that Ebay signed MS's web properties up to host Ebay's auctions - which has been their intent since November. You will soon be able to bid on slightly used XBOX's without having to visit Ebay once dissapointed gamers start dumping them en masse - Microsoft wanted a press release with 2 pieces of non-news from Ebay and in carefully measured tones Ebay threw them a bone. Looks like Ebay got the better deal here.

To: cfimx who wrote (41949)	3/12/2001 11:07:11 PM
From: QwikSand	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

It's about who WON the business for EBAY's next SERVER and software suite. U LOST that business and we WON it. And that sir is what they call a major REFERENCE account. Boy, a lot of caps in that one, this press release must have really made your day. I'm happy for you. But unfortunately, a few years in the computer biz makes me know what everybody in the biz knows: press releases don't means squat unless there is an IMMEDIATE P.O. WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT FILLED IN attached to it. Unless they are accompanied by a check, they mean less than a con man's promise and can be only proved valid retroactively, sometimes after much time. This "the two companies agree to use this and work together on that" is just so much smoke. How many NT P.O.'s does MSFT release every week? For that matter, how many "JoeCo said they're going to use Solaris as the heart of their new virtual ab crunch system" does Sun release every week? It only counts when they buy equipment. The difference is that Ebay is a prestige account? Sorry, that's a difference only to the MSFT fans, not in the real world. When some significant amounts of revenue-bearing MSFT goods are moving RIGHT NOW, then that press release will be known to have meant something. That will never happen. That press release is a piece of paper and some bits. That's all it will ever be. --QS