To: SecularBull who wrote (131609 ) 3/13/2001 6:20:11 PM From: J_F_Shepard Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667 Secular, you said "No, since I believe in justice for all. There is no justice to an unborn child being sucked out of the womb. There is no justice to the victims of murder when the killer is allowed to continue to have something that he/she took away from the victim." So you do have the contradiction....you don't have anything against killing as long as it's under conditions you find justifiable. Are you really happy with the death penalty the way your politicians have written the laws...don't you really want all murderers to die...if we had the death penalty I think you want we would have about 25,000 executions a year. Why don't you go after your congressman to get what you want. And while you're at it tell him you don't want wussy injections as a means of execution, tell him you want the bastard ripped limb from limb. With regard to an unborn child....first of all I say you have no say in the matter until you walk in a woman's shoes (and maybe you do sometimes). Most abortions are of pregnancies that were caused by men who took no responsibility to prevent it from occuring but somehow the woman always gets the blame. So I believe the choice is entirely the woman's ...it's an extremely difficult choice and one I am very grateful I never had to make ...no one does it gleefully and that's why I say no one is pro-abortion, but you can be pro-choice. If I were to ask you when ,in your opinion, does life begin....I feel certain you will say, "at conception"... So, let me raise this concept with you..... at conception two living single cells combine and begin to subdivide in the process that leads to the birth of a new being or animal. But weren't those single cells also living in the moment just before conception? What the difference in your mind between a single living cell and a double living cell. I'll bet you have no second thoughts about single cells, i.e. a sperm or an egg dying, do you? And that's how I make myself feel a little better about abortion in the early days of pregnancy.