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To: Machaon who wrote (131655)	3/13/2001 8:24:56 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769667

Dear barry, >>>>You criticize and call names constantly, even when you have not been provoked to do so. Now barry I read a post and express the conclusions that the post implies and I characterize aspects of how or what the author of the words convey. I see in your posts as words on concepts that seem to me to be whining. I see in you posts opinion expressed as fact of some state backed by nothing but what appears to be a whining opinion. >>>>Existing laws do not demand proper penalties for hate based crimes. duhhhh... The death penalty seems to me to be a pretty demanding penalty. Life in prison is also kinda on the tough side. >>>>>Our justice system fails in other quarters too, judging by the number of criminals loose on our streets with long records of felony convictions duuhhhh... I though that rates of crime were decreasing and prison population had increased. >>>>You sound totally happy with our system of justice, and feel that it does well against the current nature of crime in the U.S. Well........ don't worry, be happy. With the facts in my possession I feel that our system of justice will deal effectively with hates as well as other crimes. The solution to reduce crime further is not more laws but more education. Education is preventive of the poverty of spirit that leads to crime. But vacant liberal minds insist on pissing away time and money writing words that will never be read by a poor child. A child who may be a victim, molested and eventually in prison. tom watson tosiwmee

To: Machaon who wrote (131655)	3/13/2001 10:40:23 PM
From: Thehammer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

<<Existing laws do not demand proper penalties for hate based crimes. Our justice system fails in other quarters too, judging by the number of criminals loose on our streets with long records of felony convictions.>> Can you provide some examples of crimes and what you think is appropriate. So far much of the debate has focused on crimes which by their nature are considered heinous (rape, murder). Are you referring to such instances as burning a cross or painting a swastika? I for one have a very hard time trying assigning a penalty for a capital crime when the measurable results of the crime are the same as another. Many conservatives view this as a one way politically correct assault on a nebulous concept that will further divide us along racial and gender lines. In other words it will only be applied one way.