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To: LPS5 who wrote (2107)3/13/2001 8:43:05 PM
From: scoobypax  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10489
 
LP - we agree..

Though you articulated it MUCH better..

I was always a Tyson fan.. WAS

In recent years, especially after his prison stint,
he just got to wacky for me.. As a person, a boxer, and
a PROFESSIONAL athlete.. Every fight post-prison has been
a circus.. I remember looking forward to Tyson fights..
Lookin forward to the visciousness, the beast in him,
the knock-out power.. But now, in my opinion, whatever greatness may still reside within him, is overshadowed by
the type of person he is.. Or has become.. Or WE have made him..

But I'll always remember him as a boxer from my generation who was great, up there in the ranks with the best the world has ever had to offer. In my opinion, easily in the top 3 or 5 of alltime..

But an azz is an azz is an azz..



To: LPS5 who wrote (2107)3/14/2001 10:02:23 AM
From: Quahog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10489
 
I generally agree re: retaliation.

In a title fight, you can't just take a hard low blow, or a cut-opening head butt, and expect to be able to fight the fight you planned. No amount of conditioning will allow you to fully recover from having your balls ripped off by your cup. You must retaliate, and give as good as you got to even things back up. Holyfield deserved some retaliation for his headbutting, but a smart fighter would have made it something that would slow Holyfield down a bit, like an elbow, or a blow to the sciatic nerve, or a headbutt, or a low blow. Bite off a guy's ear and he can still fight. Bite it again after being warned and you are not only stupid and out of control, but you have also just thrown the fight. That's my problem with Mike (in the ring), he is not a smart fighter; he's an animal. He is entertaining to watch, much in the same way as it might be entertaining to see someone try to wrestle a polar bear. Mike can probably beat EVERY OTHER BOXER that is alive right now, but then again, so could the polar bear.

We will have to disagree on Subway Bernie, much for the same reason. I have no problem with him drawing his weapon, and evening using it. Like Mike, though, Bernie crossed the line once all of them were down and out.... and he walked up to one of them he had already shot and who was nearly unconscious on the ground (and certainly out of commission) and said something like, "You look like you could use another." [bang].

JMO,

Quahog



To: LPS5 who wrote (2107)3/14/2001 4:40:13 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10489
 
>>As a fighter, getting bluntly fouled without the ref taking action isn't the same as many of the "injustices," real or perceived, we face in our daily lives.
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I agree. I think he should have bitten off the ref's ear.