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Strategies & Market Trends : Waiting for the big Kahuna -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Rarebird who wrote (50486)3/22/2001 11:33:50 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 94695
 
1) There is absolutely no basis for arguing that a 15 PE is justified based on a 15% growth rate. Justifiable PEs depend on things other than growth of earnings - specifically interest rates. A 15 PE would be difficult to justify if growth was low and the PE's inverse, the earnings yield, was low relative to short-term interest rates. The early '80s was a good example of this (though grow wasn't really low). I recall, in fact, a heated debate about justifiable PEs among the market strategists at Smith Barney in the Spring of '83 when several computer stocks were pushing multiples higher. OTOH, with interest rates low, a higher PE is justified, all else equal. Also, it would be more "reasonable" to consider historical ranges of PEs rather than just arbitrarily assume a PEG ratio of one-to-one is some kind of magic number, don't you think?

2) PEs tend to be higher at the bottom of the earnings cycle, so arguing for compressed PEs on depressed earnings is inconsistent with market history.

3) The decline in the Naz is certainly no surprise to me. I called it a bubble in '98 (check back on this very thread if you care to). Were it not for the easing to avert the Asian and other monetary crises, followed by Y2K, it likely never would have gotten to 5000.

4) Could gold, perhaps, be responding to the excessive fear among investors such as yourself? What, pray tell, is it about the economic environment that is "quite bullish for gold"? Perhaps you can make a case for microeconomic conditions being bullish if there are supply/demand imbalances for the metal (other than the temporary imbalances resulting from investor fear), but you'll have to explain the bullish macro conditions.

5) What the hell is a "superficial cash flow argument" and who made it?