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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (133701)	3/27/2001 3:54:55 PM
From: Srexley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Kevin, your choice of wording is troubling. You told me that I said hard work "always" pays off (and I didn't). Now you say "They will not admit that luck has some influence on success". I have not seen that in the responses. Where has anyone said that? You put these in order. Intelligence, hard work, perserverance, luck. You come across like luck is number one, and goll darn it you aren't going to give some of that to the people who don't have any (that's impossible btw). Not sure how you are going to to that, but calling successful people "lucky" will not help ANYONE. It is a stupid, stupid argument. And if it helps you at all, I consider myself lucky for a LOT of things. Really a lot. But I do not think I have gotten where I am because I am lucky. There is a difference. Can you see it?

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (133701)	3/27/2001 3:56:48 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 769667

Kevin, Because America has always been a great land of opportunity, the idea that poor=shiftless is very deeply embedded in the American psyche. I think it only changed for a while in the Great Depression, because the catastrophe was so widespread that everyone could see it wasn't simply a case of getting out of it with hard work.

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (133701)	3/29/2001 11:53:22 AM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Winners believe that they create their own luck by their actions; losers believe in good and bad luck. -- Source Unknown I've found that luck is quite predictable. If you want more luck, take more chances. Be more active. Show up more often. -- Brian Tracy Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you sweat, the luckier you get. -- Ray Kroc I believe in luck. The harder I work the luckier I get. -- Sam Shoen This one cracks me up! We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? -- Jean Cocteau All of us have bad luck and good luck. The man who persists through the bad luck -- who keeps right on going -- is the man who is there when the good luck comes -- and is ready to receive it. -- Robert Collier When I work fourteen hours a day, seven days a week, I get lucky. -- Dr. Armand Hammer Success is just a matter of luck, all you need to do is ask a failure. History may be written by academics but it's rarely created by them. -- Source Unknown Can a person be happy without being lucky or successful? I believe the saying was "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Can we give someone luck? Or happiness? More likely we give them a form of "charity" or love. It might be money or opportunity. My question is should government be the instrument of this giving and my answer generally is no. I can see advantage during large scale disasters but there is no substitute for the face to face of giving and helping. If so, then child care would be equal to parenting and co-habiting equal to marriage. They would have to admit that there are people out there who work hard and, through no fault of their own, are NOT as successful as they would like to be. It's obvious this at one time applied to you, what changed? I think we both know.