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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (34016)	3/28/2001 7:20:08 PM
From: survivin	Respond to of 275872

re: The average consumer... Hi Jim, No doubt Mhz lives on, but aren't you painting the average consumer with a somewhat dated brush? Today's PC buyer may not be as naive as you suggest. Lets face it, with present internet connections reaching >50% of American homes the ability to deceive consumers has no doubt diminished. The good ole days of customers buying their first PC oblivious to specs, performance, etc., are likely gone forever. Basically, this isn't their first barbecue. Instead, most buyers are likely purchasing their newest system armed with loads of information, garnered from hours of online DD. They may be more astute than your average salesman. I'd be interested to hear from a retail veteran regarding the present Joe consumer makeup. I'd wager their intelligence level has risen tremendously, especially in the last few years. This of course bodes well for AMD. The web is swamped with stories of superior performance from the athlon. In fact, I haven't read a review, opinion or article in some time which places intel on their traditional performance mantel. Instead, we see stories finding, at best, equivalent performance from the legend. I read a story today where overall Jan. retail PC sales were down 25% YtY, but PCs in the $1000-$1500 range were up 65%. It can't be from an increase in discretionary income. More likely, it results from the average buyer being conditioned that this range offers the best price/performance ratio in today's market. We know who dominates this segment. survivin

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (34016)	3/28/2001 8:00:46 PM
From: dale_laroy	Respond to of 275872

In the case of my brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces, their first consideration was DVD-ROM/CD-RW, second was monitor, third was HD size. Neither processor or MHz was important to them.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (34016)	3/29/2001 3:19:43 PM
From: fyodor_	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Jim: I know it's hard for you to separate the your tech from marketing. The average consumer isn't even going to read the popular media, clueless as you think they are. The average consumer doesn't know a benchmark from a teeter totter. The average consumer is going to buy based on Mhz first, HD size, amt. or Ram and so on. The fact that P4-SDRAm will be slow is irrelevant. The Mhz BS lives on... Does Celeron "Covington" ring any bells? That was the cache-less Celeron... and it totally flopped. I honestly believe that 90% of all computer buyers either know someone who isn't "clueless" or qualifies him/her-self. And I honestly believe that all available data backs up that view. -fyo