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To: Petz who wrote (34057)3/29/2001 12:37:00 AM
From: ScumbriaRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
John,

I'm not aware of either Intel or AMD having a 0.11u or 0.15u process.

Scumbria



To: Petz who wrote (34057)3/29/2001 12:38:47 AM
From: kash johalRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Petz,

re:, "I think it is safe to say that Scumbria knows details of preliminary results from either Intel's or AMD's 0.13 process. "

I don't think it safe to say that at all.

If i had to bet it's somebody like SGS or TSMC or UMC.

Remember VIA just came out with a 750Mhz processor on a 0.15 Cu process.

I can guarantee that AMD/Intels/IBM's 0.18 process is a whole lot faster than TSMC's 0.15.

regards,

Kash



To: Petz who wrote (34057)3/29/2001 9:50:39 AM
From: combjellyRespond to of 275872
 
"I suspect that at 0.13u, noise is a big problem especially since the voltage swings are getting very small. "

I believe there was an article in "EE Times" recently by IBM on this subject. The problem seems to be that delays due to capacitance in the connections dominate the propagation delays when geometries get small. I will try to find a link...

I still think AMD ran into this when they tried 0.15 and 0.13 micron with their present process.


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