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To: Greg or e who wrote (10033)	3/29/2001 3:42:11 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I was always amused by a campus group "Jews for Christ". What the heck is that about? Sh!t or get off the pot! LOL.

To: Greg or e who wrote (10033)	3/29/2001 3:56:01 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I was just referencing Mars claim that "all" the major Christian doctrines are a direct rip off from Buddhism. Sorry. Missed the connection. I've gotten in the habit of skipping over posts than run more than about four paragraphs. Usually that only cuts out our Favorite Bloviator, Solon, <g> but this time I missed Mars as well. Karen

To: Greg or e who wrote (10033)	3/29/2001 4:26:22 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I am not an expert on Buddha.... did you read the story of the Buddha's disciple "walking on the water" , I just posted here? Message 15583165 ...and if so , would you like to comment on how exactly similar it is to the story in the Gospels ? I am not saying Christianity is ripped off from Buddhism , Gregg . But there are many direct similarities, references , and common themes. I am very vigilant of ignorant fundamentalism that condemns other belief systems as "being the work of satan" and promotes so much uneccesary fears, suspicions, and strife in a world that all men share , hopefully someday with dignity and enlightenment ...without the condemnation behind their closed doors. I can show you link after link on the internet of such Christian fundamentalism , making such claims ...that Hindus and Buddhists are devil worshippers and "cults", when they completely share almost every spiritual refinement and goal as does Christianity. Did Christianity become infused with the teachings of Buddha ? Well it was the fastest spreading teachings in the world then , and in India there was the story of the Messiah called "Krishna" 1500 years before. It is chronicled in one of the world's most well known Holy writings, embraced by many of the geniouses of our time. You don't usually hear of Buddhists or Hindu's calling Christians "devil" worshippers. the similarities of Buddha , Krishna , and "The Christ" can be surveyed here in a post supplied from Solon earlier: Message 14976091 It becomes harder and harder to deny the tie~in. Time for Christians to acknowledge the truth perhaps and step down off the "high-horse"? regards,

To: Greg or e who wrote (10033)	3/29/2001 5:30:37 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

That being said, show me a reference to a document. Lets hold it up to the same level of scrutiny that the New testament documents are subjected to and we'll see if it holds any water, Message 15583165 Greg , this story easily predates Christianity by at least several centuries at best. The record keeping in that part of the world was excellent and rivaled it's counter-part in Greco Persian worlds. They have one of the oldest recorded histories of man's civilization and by the time of Lord Buddha's lifespan were one of the most highly developed and skilled cultures . The original religious " scriptures " from Hinduism are the far and away the oldest recorded on the planet, dating back easily to 3500 years and beyond. They are called the Vedas. More is known of the life of the Buddha than any other religious teacher/master/savior of the ancient world . The recording of the "Savior" Krishna , Gregg is extremely well documented , I can assure you dating back far, far before the vague and cloudy origins of the Gospels of Christianity. Even the word "Scripture" , comes directly the Hindi word "Sruti". ...and Buddhism survives very well, 2500 years later. Must be a truth there somewhere ... regards Mars

To: Greg or e who wrote (10033)	3/30/2001 7:40:39 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I thought your musings about gay republicans was as close an analogy to the "Who is a Christian" question as I have heard Glad I could add a little bit to your day. Feel free to borrow it if you ever need an analogy. Attribution not required. <g> I am not an expert on Buddha. I did a little homework and found a history of Buddha that is pretty readable. india.coolatlanta.com Here's an exerpt: <<But though he received an impressive following Buddha never claimed Divine status. Very few miracles are attributed to him. "Miracles" by the Buddha On one occasion a grieving lady carried her dead child to Buddha and asked him to revive it. This was a perfect setting for a miracle to be woven into religious folklore, but Buddhist records state that Buddha calmed the lady and told her that he would require three mustard seeds to revive her child. But the mustard seeds should be from a family where so far no one has ever died. To fulfill this seemingly simple request the lady went from house to house only to be told that sometime or the other, someone had died in every family. Gradually, the truth dawned upon the grieving lady and going to a cemetery, she laid down her child's body and taking its little hand in hers, she said "Beloved son, I thought that death has overtaken you alone. but no it overtakes all of us". She went back to Buddha and became his disciple. >>