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To: Little Joe who wrote (134417)	4/1/2001 12:03:30 AM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

There was a story awhile back about a group of doctors who refused to take medical insurance. They lowered their rates and worked directly with their patients and were very happy with the results. By the way the HMO's which so many love to complain about were mandated by the government. Once again a government idea which is bad. Funny though you will never hear them admit that it was their mandate.

To: Little Joe who wrote (134417)	4/1/2001 12:07:51 AM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

By the way health care is an unusual business. In treating a patient the doctor has to take in the various facets of a human being. Their physical condition their mind-set and so many other factors. It is not a true science in that the results are never guaranteed. The doctor =patient relationship which used to exist was in reality destroyed by government and the insurance industry. I strongly believe in fasting as one of the greatest cures for illness and in promoting general well-being. That is not to replace the doctor but to assist your over-all state of health.

To: Little Joe who wrote (134417)	4/1/2001 12:14:58 AM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 769670

I couldn't agree with you more regarding the managers of hospitals. I've worked with a few. Just because you're a great doctor, doesn't mean you will make a great manager. Many severely lack knowledge in basic quality management principles.

To: Little Joe who wrote (134417)	4/1/2001 3:57:12 AM
From: Kevin Rose	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

I had similar stories of my hospital trip. I saw my doctor, and he wanted me admitted immediately for a potentially serious infection. He called the hospital, and told them I was coming, to admit me, and start me on antibiotics. He also wrote these directions out, and gave them to us to take to the hospital. We still waited two hours in the emergency room waiting room. Turns out the hospital was full, they had no beds, so we had to stay in the emergency room. When they got me into an emergency room bed, they weren't going to give me antibiotics, because the doctors instructions said to admit me first, then give the antibiotics. My wife had to argue with the doctor, who finally called my doctor, who said of COURSE he wanted them to start the antibiotics right away. If we had been meeker about it, I may have been in real trouble. The list of such things went on and on, throughout my stay. I won't bore everyone with the details, but it was like that old movie 'Hospital' with George Scott. Almost surreal. Our experience may have been atypical, but I get the feeling it was not. Scary. My advice to those who may have to visit the hospital; don't assume the people know what they're doing, and you have a better chance of coming out ok.