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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (10416)	4/4/2001 5:18:07 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 82486

Nevertheless I do find the righteous rantings of the religious left unsettling. Call it as it is. These "rantings" are bigotry and hate speech from the folks who preach "tolerance". JLA

To: Bill who wrote (10416)	4/4/2001 6:08:20 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

I dare say nobody on either side accused atheists and agnostics of having no morals. Well, that takes some thinking about. I don't say yes, I don't say no. But it's not an obvious matter. In mixed societies of some atheists, some agnostics, and some believers, morals have generally been those developed by the believers and adopted, usually through social pressure, by the atheists and agnostics. (No, I don't have a source for that. But that's the way, historically, it has developed.) But assume pure atheism with no believers to provide a moral base. What, then, would morality be based on? If the Soviet Union had been able to totally abolish religious belief and become a purely atheistic society of atheists, would they have been a moral society? (Were they even as they developed closer to that goal?) I wouldn't be as hasty as you are to suggest that atheists can have morality independent of the structure of society which has been established by believers.